Yeah, refer to my thread, I start bending em down. I described the method I used in the grow log. Curious if u meant the same thing, they are def leaning over more now, which is cool because not only does light penetrate deeper, but also more of the cola is getting exposed to the powerful HPS. Curious, does this increase the chances my buds will need to be held up by string attached to the ceiling? I would have to assume so, and that was one thing I really didnt wanna do..looks like a bitch