are there infinite universes?

[Matt the Funk]

well then, its probably a good thing im already insane...

So I see we have atleast one thing in common......

[wrasler]

eh herbal,
the point of the forum isn't to go out and read books, but to DISCUSS issues with others.
i was wondering if you all ever wonder about your perception of things. like if its different than you see it. i dunno how to put it other than i feel really philosophical when im stoned.
regarding infinity, i agree w/ what you guys said about finite minds not being able to comprehend eternity. it is a crazy mindfuck just trying to think about the concept of something never-ending, cause everything physical we see has a lifespan.

[Matt the Funk]

eh herbal,
the point of the forum isn't to go out and read books, but to DISCUSS issues with others.
i was wondering if you all ever wonder about your perception of things. like if its different than you see it. i dunno how to put it other than i feel really philosophical when im stoned.
regarding infinity, i agree w/ what you guys said about finite minds not being able to comprehend eternity. it is a crazy mindfuck just trying to think about the concept of something never-ending, cause everything physical we see has a lifespan.

But really man. NO one knows ANYTHING. At all. You know shit. You have no idea how other people percieve shit. You have no idea what is real. I only have an idea of what is real, which is what I perceive, but as long as anyone including myself should be concerned, only be concerned with your own reality.

[MastaChronic]

well, your right about most things wrasler.
the only thing that (im not disagreeing) i could see that was fallible was your idea of infinite. your half right, infinity is never ending, but it is also never beginning, it is like the symbol for it, the figure eight.
mr.devious' thread helped remind me of this.

[wrasler]

But really man. NO one knows ANYTHING. At all. You know shit. You have no idea how other people percieve shit. You have no idea what is real. I only have an idea of what is real, which is what I perceive, but as long as anyone including myself should be concerned, only be concerned with your own reality.

i agree with you on that. i find that its easier to simplify life and keep it into the "what i perceive". but its still makes you crazy to try to comprehend...well, existence, yet its fun to do that occasionally.

[wrasler]

my bad about not mentioning that mastachron. b/c that is a huge part of the concept of eternity. its way to nuts to try to trace back time and it makes me wonder when the beginning was, if there was a beginning. ahhhhhh this is too fuckin crazy to think about whne im blazed.

[MastaChronic]

this may be a littlehard to comprehend, but.....maybe the infinite is really nothing and everything at the same time...

[jayrollinhippy]

Ah the cocept of the multiverse infinity is a circle in time with no beginnig and no end . And the hidden truth of the yin yang with it duality good can not exsit with out evil but the two make one. there is an old zen poem i like

From nothingness we come
To nothingness we go
forever in a circle over and over

[Thepossumdance]

this may be a littlehard to comprehend, but.....maybe the infinite is really nothing and everything at the same time...

its hard to comprehend cause it has no though behind it and makes no sense.

1 thing though... Who says the mind is finite. I see nothing as finite, the perimeter of any object for example is infinite. we use these measurements of meters and feet as generalizations but as you refine the exactness of the image you are measuring you see that it is never perfectly straight or curved. You can break the object down to smaller and smaller parts and the perimeter will continue to increase infinitely. So why is our mind then "finite" I feel like we are caught up in this image of the infinite as some massive grand collection but it exists in the smallest atom as well.

[Cautios]

I do not believe in your log burning example you would destroy other universes. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, therefore burning does not destroy the object it merely creates a chemical reaction which would change the physical or chemical make-up of an object.