mouldy weeeed...

[LIP]

Smoking cananbis realives my ailments, so that i can work. Im not going to go on the dole. I can work perfectly well, and will carry on.

Im not only talking about the UK when i talk about cannabis studies. It IS one of the most studied plants we have.

If they dont smoke weed, they'll drink. You want them drinking something that can kill them?

Or smoking something that wont kill them?

Weed doesnt make people lazy, people make themselves lazy. You cant blame laziness on weed.

Too much of anything is bad for you? Well, according to you i smoke too much, yet im fine.

I've been smoking since i was 11.

Im not lazy. I work hard all day. I'm not ill. I dont have cancer. I can run a few miles without getting out of breath. I dont cough. I dont vomit.

All cannabis does to me is get me stoned and alliviate my pain.

Something which synthetic drugs dont do.

When i smoke cannabis i dont get sideeffects, i know i cant overdose on it. I know it hasnt killed anyone. I know it's safe.

The thing is, you keep going about it might not be 100% safe, but if it wasnt why has no one ever died from it? Or got cancer from smoking it?

Im getting bored arguing with you or "debating" as you like to call it.

Give up. Im not bothered about what you have to say.



How hard can it be to understand cannabis has never killed a single person in it's entire history, it's never given anyone cancer, it's never been proven to cause schizophrenia.

Why do you think it'll start harming people know?

It wont, never has done, never will and that is why i concider cannabis safe.


It's not compareable to tobacco and alcohol. Those are two drugs we KNOW kill thousands upon thousands each year.

Cannabis kills none, and never has done.

So HOW can you come to the conclusion cannabis is bad.

Kids are going to do something, i'd rather they smoke a plant that wont kil them than drink a skinful of alcohol and get poisoning or smoke tobacco and get cancer, and alot of responcible parents agree.

[LIP]

Yes, they were wrong about tobacco, but that was then. This is now. They are not wrong with cannabis.

[Skidmark]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz blah.

Cannabis dosn't harm. Sooooooo vaporise/eat it

I SMOKE cannabis and i believe SMOKING anything will harm you. If it produces tar it IS harmful there is no doubt look inside your pipe. Tar on the lungs can cause many things not just cancer.

I believe that "too much" is the point where your body cant clean your lungs as fast as your smoking it. I definatly smoke too much then IN MY OPINION! Also too much could be considired lethal dose which is in LIP's sig.

So from what little research has been done on cannabis that i have read my conclusion is simple; Cannabis is Harmless Smoking anything can kill
your both right IMO

[LIP]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz blah.

Cannabis dosn't harm. Sooooooo vaporise/eat it

I SMOKE cannabis and i believe SMOKING anything will harm you. If it produces tar it IS harmful there is no doubt look inside your pipe. Tar on the lungs can cause many things not just cancer.

I believe that "too much" is the point where your body cant clean your lungs as fast as your smoking it. I definatly smoke too much then IN MY OPINION! Also too much could be considired lethal dose which is in LIP's sig.

So from what little research has been done on cannabis that i have read my conclusion is simple; Cannabis is Harmless Smoking anything can kill
your both right IMO

Me more so lol... that was a sarcastic joke... just incase anyone thought i meant it... or did i? Did i mean it? I dont know.

But this confused me a little; "Also too much could be considired lethal dose which is in LIP's sig."

I think you might have made a typing error. There is no lethal dose. It'd be a phyical impossibility, and if any tests were carried out they'd be void because the death would be from oxygen depravation.

THC is non toxic.

[sirsmokesalot]

I SMOKE cannabis and i believe SMOKING anything will harm you. If it produces tar it IS harmful there is no doubt look inside your pipe. Tar on the lungs can cause many things not just cancer.

I second that, I couldn't care less about when you lot want to let your kids somke but as Itchy and skidmark said, Inhaling any burning substance isn't good for you. Now im not saying its necessarily BAD, just not harmless.

LIP Whether or not you smoke too much every day is none of my buisness and I really dont care, however I personally wouldnt recommend the average person smoke 7+ grams a day because you couldnt argue against the fact that their are much more healthier ways to introduce the same amount of thc into your bloodstream.

And about cannabis studies, I personally dont believe that a large amount of extensive research has been done and would have to see more before I argued anything about the long term effects of smoking.

On another note, everyone has their own opinions so why continue to talk each other in circles? LIP has one thought and Itchy another, where does calling one another "childish" really get you besides further away from the message you are trying to send across?

Is this what Cannabis is all about? even if you do think its harmful neither of you can deny that in comparisson to other popular drugs and products like alcohol and tobacco, cannabis is the least harmful even when you dont incorperate all of the different harmless methods of ingestion. You both beleive and know it, so share the love of the herb.

Dont bicker, burn one down instead :smokin:

[mfqr]

they didnt do shit, I made it so no-one smoked that... remember in the first post it was my friends weed, well, i took it off of him, without him knowing (he wanted to smoke it) and threw it in the bin, the government had no hand in it whatsoever...

its actually only three plants.. my friend lives there..


yeh, i do grow my own, but that shit doesnt last through the whole year, especially as im limited to a v. small growspace right now... so basically, canucks right, its not as easy as you think...



Amen.

The only real way to get this message out to the country, that weed needs to be decriminalized, would be to get a newspaper to cover it, (preferably the sun) and have a massive campaign for legalization, i think, if the sun newspaper was confronted with the facts about cannabis, and then the reality of whats goin on now, they would help us out, we've all been denied of our freedom to smoke a harmless plant for too long... and it needs to fuckin stop...

it seems the idea of legalization is becoming more realistic nowadays, i mean, the amount of stuff ive seen on tv recently about cannabis... pretty much everyone has a thumbs up opinion on legalization, its only the faggits that everyone hates anyway that want to keep it down...

soon there should be a thread, in which EVERYONE comes together to get the message out, and i dont just mean flyers and stickers, i mean lets go worldwide lol shit like news coverage... big things... i mean, all we need is for one paper to take interest in what we want to do, and then the more they back us, the more people find out the truth on cannabis... after all, i just want people to know what this amazing plant can do, and thinking about it, i bet there are dying people out their now, who would benifit from cannabis use...but cant as its illegal..

or even worse, there could be sick people using cannabis for medicinal purposes, ending up with moldy sand weed instead...that is not justice...

one day soon, shits gonna change...

The hard part about this is actually doing it. Actions speak louder than words--and that's what we need... action. So, how would we even start this? There needs to be a preliminary plan to start a small fire, which would then escalate into a bigger fire, if you know what I mean.

[mfqr]

I am not posting annoying rants just because i dont agree or believe in some of your statements. You said you dont have tolerance when it is obvious you do every one builds up a tolerance to cannabis its a know fact many studies have been done on tolerance to drugs.

And no it is not right for children to smoke cannabis my opinion and just because i dont agree with you does not make me an idiot. One of the reasons why cannabis is still illegal is the debate that children will start smoking it underage like they do with alcohol and tabacco hense my statement.

I agree cannabis should be legal and i agree the effects and dangers are far less than with alcohol and tabacco. But i dont agree with you stating cannabis is totaly harmless, it is to degree but think about it, you are burning plant matter and inhaling it into your lungs at high temperatures that smoke contains more than just THC or CBD which are the psychoactive substances we want to get high, what about all the other chemicals that come with it? This I would like to know myself without the biased opinions of the people who outlaw cannabis.

As for the statement its not my fault you cannot afford to smoke as much as i do, thats just childish as you dont know anything about me but lets put it this way I dont need to goto work. Its not impossible to smoke 7grams a day but you carnt be doing much else except posting on this forum with a joint hanging out your mouth 24/7. :stoned:

I am not claiming i am right i open to different opinions and discussions and i love a spliff just as much as anyone else.

Its good to have open heated debates espcially when you a passionate about something like cannabis and what we are talking about is exactly what would be discussed for the legalization of cannabis arguments against and for. I am for making it legal by the way! :jointsmile:

ON TOPIC If cannabis was legal then we wouldnt have the problem of moldy or doctored weed as it would go though quality control and you could take it back if you were not happy!

CBD, is in fact, not psychoactive. CBD more so regulates the effects of THC.

My apologies for the double post. My edit time expired.

[LIP]

CBD, is in fact, not psychoactive. CBD more so regulates the effects of THC.

My apologies for the double post. My edit time expired.

Indeed, they're are many cannabinoids and cannabinols, such as CBD, CBN CBG. Some of these ARE phycoactive, some arnt. Delta -9- tetrahydrocannabinol is, as we know, and 11-hydroxy-cannabinol is not phycoavtive. Some are not phycoactive, but work with the THC to change the high, be it cererbal or a body stone.

But like i said in prevous posts, this whole argument is boring. I'll NEVER agree with itchy, and he wont agree with me. It doesnt bother me. I dont know him, and thank fuck he doesnt know me.

I'll continue to smoke my "large" amounts of cannabis and stay 100% fine.

[bluntblaze]

7g's a day isnt a lot just because you think it is doesn't mean its true i smoke about the same and im fine :rastasmoke:

[Abattoir Dream]

yeh whatever itchy... just because i happen to agree with lip, and disagree with you... its MY OPINION after all..

whatever... im done with this thread...