Iraq launches drive to subdue Baghdad

[Psycho4Bud]

BAGHDAD, Iraq - In the opening battle of a major drive to tame the violent capital, the Iraqi army reported it killed 30 militants Saturday in a firefight in a Sunni insurgent stronghold just north of the heavily fortified Green Zone.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, speaking only hours earlier at a ceremony marking the 85th anniversary of the Iraqi army, announced his intention for the open-ended attempt to crush the militant fighters who have left Baghdad in the grip of sectarian violence.

Hassan al-Suneid, a key aide and member of al-Maliki's Dawa Party, said the Iraqi leader had committed 20,000 soldiers to the operation and would call upon American troops and airpower only when needed.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070106/...q_070106201153

We're not doing it, it's the troops that we have trained going in to the fight. We can do back up for now and leave when all is secure.......anyone see anything wrong with having a friends back?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on 01-06-2007. Iraq launches drive to subdue Baghdad BAGHDAD, Iraq - In the opening battle of a major drive to tame the violent capital, the Iraqi army reported it killed 30 militants Saturday in a firefight in a Sunni insurgent stronghold just north of the heavily fortified Green Zone. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, speaking only hours earlier at a ceremony marking the 85th anniversary of the Iraqi army, announced his intention for the open-ended attempt to crush the militant fighters who have left Baghdad in the grip of sectarian violence. Rating: 5

[andruejaysin]

What friend do you refer to? The pro iranian shia theocracy which rules southern iraq?

[Psycho4Bud]

What friend do you refer to? The pro iranian shia theocracy which rules southern iraq?

Is it really so hard to say, "Hey, this is progress. At least our troops aren't the wons on the front line."

Get use to the feast.....there will be much more coming in the future.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Krogith]

So when we are done IRAQ will be the Same religion as IRAN. Glad we made them Friends. Sounds like USA is makeing a mess IMO. When we are done Not only are all the Suni's going to mad at us ( wich if I'm right is the Majority of Muslims), But we also have set up another State to become like Iran (wich also hates Jews and USA for helping them)

Sweet Sounds like all the Big Business in WAR and Oil Will be getting Big Pockets.

INVEST and become rich because if your poor your getting Drafted This war will not stop anytime soon.

[Psycho4Bud]

So when we are done IRAQ will be the Same religion as IRAN.

Please provide a link that states anything on that order. The Kurds don't even follow Islam. There were provisions put into the Constitution to protect that right.

Glad we made them Friends. Sounds like USA is makeing a mess IMO. When we are done Not only are all the Suni's going to mad at us ( wich if I'm right is the Majority of Muslims), But we also have set up another State to become like Iran (wich also hates Jews and USA for helping them)

When a 12 mill man Basij Army comes across the sands from Iran the Sunni will be more than happy to allie with us....just as they did during the Iran/Iraq war. Most the Sunni dominate countries in that area supplied the cash, we supplied the arms and security in the Persian Gulf. If I recall, we took out half of Irans navy at the time after an attack.

Sweet Sounds like all the Big Business in WAR and Oil Will be getting Big Pockets.

Irans oil industry has been neglected for over 20 years and is in terrible shape. After a war, it would be like starting from scratch. By the way, how many U.S. oil companies are in Iraq as compared to lets say Norwegian and Canadian?

INVEST and become rich because if your poor your getting Drafted This war will not stop anytime soon.

Draft? No way.....this won't be a ground war.

Also, the Shi-ites in Iraq are not like those in Iran. Sadr is the closest thing Iran has for an allie and his time is coming soon. The rest are actually moderate.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Krogith]

http://www.iranmania.com/News/Articl...urrent+Affairs

http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/nws/latimes25.htm

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http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=8172

No way there not Friends Your right P4B.......

[Psycho4Bud]

http://www.iranmania.com/News/Articl...urrent+Affairs

http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/nws/latimes25.htm

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http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=8172

No way there not Friends Your right P4B.......

Mubaraks comments don't suprise me.......the Sunni side of the middle east are afraid of just what was stated. If that were the case though, wouldn't have Sistani backed Sadr's actions?

Now for the photo op......you didn't post what was under the photo:
Fancy meeting you here! On his first official visit to Tehran, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki is greeted by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

On a diplomatic trip isn't it considered normal to be seen shaking hands with the other countries leader? They have a million man army not to mention the 11 million in the Basij. It would be a good idea to try to create diplomatic ties.

Actually Mobaraks comments are nice to see. It means that the Sunni region will realize that a stable Iraq means less of a chance for an Iran/Iraq Shiite allience.

I still hold that if the Shiite hit the fan, the Sunni's would call on the Militay Industrial Complex for assistance.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Krogith]

Even so, the underlying dynamic of closer ties between the two countries remained intact. Indeed it received a boost when in the general election held under Iraqâ??s new constitution in January 2006 resulted in the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA) of Shiite religious parties winning 80 percent of the seats reserved for Shiites.

Earlier the UIA had succeeded in inserting a clause in the new constitution stating that no Iraqi law shall violate the principles of Islam. This makes Iraq an Islamic republic in all but name.

Significantly, the first foreign leader greeted by the Maliki government, installed on May 20, was Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki. He met Maliki as well as Zebari, who retained the foreign ministry in the new government.

â??We do not want WMD [weapons of mass destruction] next door, but Iranâ??s program is for peaceful purposes,â?� said Zebari. â??We believe in the wisdom of the Islamic Republic leadership in handling the subject, and we are against any tension with the Islamic Republic.â?�
In the final analysis, only a home-grown variety of democracy can take root in the countries of the Middle East, not a Jeffersonian model imposed by America. The fallout of the US intervention in Iran 1953 and Iraq 50 years later has virtually ensured rejection of the American model.

you might of stoped reading but heres my points
Sounds like there on the Same side

[Psycho4Bud]

Even so, the underlying dynamic of closer ties between the two countries remained intact. Indeed it received a boost when in the general election held under Iraqâ??s new constitution in January 2006 resulted in the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA) of Shiite religious parties winning 80 percent of the seats reserved for Shiites.

Earlier the UIA had succeeded in inserting a clause in the new constitution stating that no Iraqi law shall violate the principles of Islam. This makes Iraq an Islamic republic in all but name.

Significantly, the first foreign leader greeted by the Maliki government, installed on May 20, was Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki. He met Maliki as well as Zebari, who retained the foreign ministry in the new government.

â??We do not want WMD [weapons of mass destruction] next door, but Iranâ??s program is for peaceful purposes,â?� said Zebari. â??We believe in the wisdom of the Islamic Republic leadership in handling the subject, and we are against any tension with the Islamic Republic.â?�
In the final analysis, only a home-grown variety of democracy can take root in the countries of the Middle East, not a Jeffersonian model imposed by America. The fallout of the US intervention in Iran 1953 and Iraq 50 years later has virtually ensured rejection of the American model.

you might of stoped reading but heres my points
Sounds like there on the Same side

I read it all...... they are creating their own version of democracy....it won't be just like ours but it'll be a hell of alot better than Saddam and Sons.

As for the WMD thing, their right next door and not in a position to create a conflict. Some things are better left unsaid.......

Womens rights and other things IN the constitution doesn't really agree with the principles of Islam. I recall it was a fight with the Kurds on getting the proper wording in order to pass.

Here's a chart on the diversity of the Legislature. Of course due to population they have a majority but it seems that they can't push items through without either Kurdish votes or Sunni votes.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

P.S. Still gotta say that it's a good thing that their troops are getting to the point of doing these missions.

[GrowRebel]

Sweet Sounds like all the Big Business in WAR and Oil Will be getting Big Pockets.

Irans oil industry has been neglected for over 20 years and is in terrible shape. After a war, it would be like starting from scratch. By the way, how many U.S. oil companies are in Iraq as compared to lets say Norwegian and Canadian?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Future of Iraq: The spoils of war
he US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.
The huge potential prizes for Western firms will give ammunition to critics who say the Iraq war was fought for oil. They point to statements such as one from Vice-President Dick Cheney, who said in 1999, while he was still chief executive of the oil services company Halliburton, that the world would need an additional 50 million barrels of oil a day by 2010. "So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies," he said.

Posted Jan 6, 2007 05:12 PM PST
Category: IRAQ


So the American troops who are fighting and dying in Iraq are not fighting and dying because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or because Saddam Hussein was in any way a threat to the US: they are dying for oil.
NewsIndependent.UK

So tell us again how this is about .... what .... freedom and democracy .... not oil?:toilet_claw: :stupid: :madnoel:

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