Thanks for the offer lol. Everything happens for a reason so if my clones work great, if not then maybe I'm not supposed to be cloning and expanding just yet. Oh since your here I FIMed afew plants today following your instructions(yours were the easiest to understand) and plan to FIM the ones I take the clones off of after I take the clones. I have a camera today too so hopefully in the net few days I'll be able to post some pic of my babies(which have kinda slowed way down due to a few things) and my set up in my thread.