My Lowryders were in the original Joint Doctor packaging - Paid £30 for 10.

All ten germinated just fine.

Lowryder 2 was the same, 100% germ rate.

Those seeds must have had problems.

Plus the seedbank I used added 200 (old stock) Durban Poison seeds - to my order as the Lowryder2 was really new and they didn't know how it would go.