UFO Sighting

[five0addict]

amazing topc..

after watching that video and looking up the quantum physics zero point energy and scalar waves.
i remember hearing to travel at the speed of light you would need a near infinite ammount of energy per lb of mass. the energy could be theoretically achieved using zero point. the scalar waves can supposedly cancel out mass.

interesting stuff. im hoping for change!

five0addict Reviewed by five0addict on 01-07-2007. UFO Sighting There was a UFO sighting at Chicago O'Hare. Pilots and employees report seeing a metallic disk hover, then dart upwards, leavine a hole in the clouds. Before the story came out, residents called in, revealing exact descriptions. What does everyone here think about it and UFOs in general? I wonder what it would be like to smoke up with aliens. Kick ass. Rating: 5

[xblackdogx]

amazing topc..

after watching that video and looking up the quantum physics zero point energy and scalar waves.
i remember hearing to travel at the speed of light you would need a near infinite ammount of energy per lb of mass. the energy could be theoretically achieved using zero point. the scalar waves can supposedly cancel out mass.

interesting stuff. im hoping for change!

what do you think of the idea that egyptians used this technique to
move the giant stones to make the pyramid.

[bud luv]

Please allow me to explain to everyone why Humans will never have contact with intelligent life from outer space. At least no sooner than 1 million years from now. I will start with a primer on the size of the universe.

-1 light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum (space is a vacuum) in a year. 1 light year is 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles.

-The center of our galaxy, the Milky Way, is about 26,000 light years away. The Galaxy is about 100,000 light years across. Thus, any images we observe with telescopes of the center of our Galaxy are images that are 26,000 years old.

-It takes approximately 8.31 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to the Earth (a distance of 1.58 Ã? 10−5 light-years).

-One megalight-year, abbreviated "Mly", is one million light-years, or the distance light travels in one million years. Megalight-years are typically used to measure distances between neighboring galaxies and galaxy clusters.

-The Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 megalight-years away.
The Triangulum Galaxy (M33), at 3.14 megalight-years away, is the most distant object visible to the naked eye.
The nearest large galaxy cluster, the Virgo Cluster, is about 59 megalight-years away. So any images we see of the Andromeda Galaxy are 2.5 million years old.

-The distance from the Earth to the edge of the visible universe is about 46.5 gigalight-years in any direction; this is the radius of the Observable universe. 1 gigalight year = The distance light travels in 1 billion years.

:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:
Now that you all know how big the universe is, time for a smoke break for me.
:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

-The speed at which mass travels cannot exceed the speed of light, due to matter breaking down. At such velocities dispersed particles in the rarefied interstellar medium would turn into a stream of high-energy cosmic rays that would destroy the ship unless extraordinary radiation protection measures were taken. This undesired effect could only possibly result if a method of propulsion could be devised to move the spacecraft at this super optic speed. It is inconceivable that this technological barrier could be crossed.

-So when we see an image of a point in space, it is impossible for any type of mass to "pass" that light image before it gets to our telescopes. When our big telescopes take a picture of the Andromeda Galaxy, for example, we see an image that is 2.5 million years old, and it is not possible for mass to get to us quicker than the picture (picture = light).

-We have pictures of the edge of the observable universe that took 46.5 billion years to get here (earth).

Ok, let's recap: We know the size of the universe, the distance that it would take to cross it, and that nothing in our index of space photos shows life.

-Taking the route of caution, let's assume that there is intelligent, advanced life in the Andromeda Galaxy. Let's assume that this species of life is capable of traveling at half the speed of light (impossible). If that species of Alien left today, It would get here in 1.25 million years.

-The future of the planet is closely tied to that of the Sun. The luminosity of the Sun will continue to steadily increase, growing from the current luminosity by 10% in 1.1 billion years and up to 40% in 3.5 billion years Climate models indicate that the increase in radiation reaching the Earth is likely to have dire consequences, including possible loss of the oceans

-The increased heat will accelerate the inorganic CO2 cycle, reducing its concentration to the lethal dose for plants (10 ppm for C4 photosynthesis) in 900 million years. But even if the Sun was eternal and stable, the continued internal cooling of the Earth would have resulted in a loss of much of its atmosphere and oceans (due to lower volcanism). More specifically, for Earth's oceans, the lower temperatures in the crust will permit their water to leak more deeply than today (at certain depth the water is evaporating) resulting in their total disappearance in 1 billion years. Earth would be uninhabitable by humans far sooner than all this, though.

-The fact that the earth will only exist for a certain amount of time limits the distance from which any UFO could travel and actually find our planet. Anything further than 1 gigalight-year would arrive too late, thus making our contact with 99.9999% of the universe (or something along those lines) impossible.

-Many estimates that take into account the elements of pollution and disease measure the human race's expiration date in a scale far smaller than millions of years. That our species could last another 1.25 million years (minimum amount of time for aliens from Andromeda to get here) on planet Earth would be improbable


To wrap it all up: With our limited time frame of existence coupled with the vast expanses of space between us and the nearest galaxies, it will be next to impossible for us to ever contact Alien life. Sorry, no smoking a fattie with ET or Chewbacca.

[Matt the Funk]

Please allow me to explain to everyone why Humans will never have contact with intelligent life from outer space. At least no sooner than 1 million years from now. I will start with a primer on the size of the universe.

-1 light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum (space is a vacuum) in a year. 1 light year is 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles.

-The center of our galaxy, the Milky Way, is about 26,000 light years away. The Galaxy is about 100,000 light years across. Thus, any images we observe with telescopes of the center of our Galaxy are images that are 26,000 years old.

-It takes approximately 8.31 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to the Earth (a distance of 1.58 Ã? 10−5 light-years).

-One megalight-year, abbreviated "Mly", is one million light-years, or the distance light travels in one million years. Megalight-years are typically used to measure distances between neighboring galaxies and galaxy clusters.

-The Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 megalight-years away.
The Triangulum Galaxy (M33), at 3.14 megalight-years away, is the most distant object visible to the naked eye.
The nearest large galaxy cluster, the Virgo Cluster, is about 59 megalight-years away. So any images we see of the Andromeda Galaxy are 2.5 million years old.

-The distance from the Earth to the edge of the visible universe is about 46.5 gigalight-years in any direction; this is the radius of the Observable universe. 1 gigalight year = The distance light travels in 1 billion years.

:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:
Now that you all know how big the universe is, time for a smoke break for me.
:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

-The speed at which mass travels cannot exceed the speed of light, due to matter breaking down. At such velocities dispersed particles in the rarefied interstellar medium would turn into a stream of high-energy cosmic rays that would destroy the ship unless extraordinary radiation protection measures were taken. This undesired effect could only possibly result if a method of propulsion could be devised to move the spacecraft at this super optic speed. It is inconceivable that this technological barrier could be crossed.

-So when we see an image of a point in space, it is impossible for any type of mass to "pass" that light image before it gets to our telescopes. When our big telescopes take a picture of the Andromeda Galaxy, for example, we see an image that is 2.5 million years old, and it is not possible for mass to get to us quicker than the picture (picture = light).

-We have pictures of the edge of the observable universe that took 46.5 billion years to get here (earth).

Ok, let's recap: We know the size of the universe, the distance that it would take to cross it, and that nothing in our index of space photos shows life.

-Taking the route of caution, let's assume that there is intelligent, advanced life in the Andromeda Galaxy. Let's assume that this species of life is capable of traveling at half the speed of light (impossible). If that species of Alien left today, It would get here in 1.25 million years.

-The future of the planet is closely tied to that of the Sun. The luminosity of the Sun will continue to steadily increase, growing from the current luminosity by 10% in 1.1 billion years and up to 40% in 3.5 billion years Climate models indicate that the increase in radiation reaching the Earth is likely to have dire consequences, including possible loss of the oceans

-The increased heat will accelerate the inorganic CO2 cycle, reducing its concentration to the lethal dose for plants (10 ppm for C4 photosynthesis) in 900 million years. But even if the Sun was eternal and stable, the continued internal cooling of the Earth would have resulted in a loss of much of its atmosphere and oceans (due to lower volcanism). More specifically, for Earth's oceans, the lower temperatures in the crust will permit their water to leak more deeply than today (at certain depth the water is evaporating) resulting in their total disappearance in 1 billion years. Earth would be uninhabitable by humans far sooner than all this, though.

-The fact that the earth will only exist for a certain amount of time limits the distance from which any UFO could travel and actually find our planet. Anything further than 1 gigalight-year would arrive too late, thus making our contact with 99.9999% of the universe (or something along those lines) impossible.

-Many estimates that take into account the elements of pollution and disease measure the human race's expiration date in a scale far smaller than millions of years. That our species could last another 1.25 million years (minimum amount of time for aliens from Andromeda to get here) on planet Earth would be improbable


To wrap it all up: With our limited time frame of existence coupled with the vast expanses of space between us and the nearest galaxies, it will be next to impossible for us to ever contact Alien life. Sorry, no smoking a fattie with ET or Chewbacca.

It still doesn't make it impossible, and we probally already have contacted "aliens". You have no idea how long their civilizations could have existed for which means they could be here now and could have left millions of years ago from their home planet. Call me ignorant or w/e but put that in your pipe and smoke it. :stoned:

[bud luv]

It still doesn't make it impossible, and we probally already have contacted "aliens". You have no idea how long their civilizations could have existed for which means they could be here now and could have left millions of years ago from their home planet. Call me ignorant or w/e but put that in your pipe and smoke it. :stoned:

That's why I said it's "next-to-impossible" that Aliens are here.

Unless they're living amongst us "Men In Black" style or are inhabiting the core of the earth, it's unlikely they're here. I fail to see how a species with [B]that much[B] technology would inhabit our planet and not make themselves known to us, but of course it is possible. Just not probable. I think it is likely that there is life out there somewhere, it's just that time and space limitations make our contact with them unlikely.

[the yeag]

One night about in the middle of last November i was visiting a relative in New Mexico. She has always sworn aliens were real and said she had seen them. she said they are everywhere you just have to look and except them and that they are among us . on the third night i was there we stayed up late smoking watching movies. she went off to bed around 11 me and her son stayed up awhile longer smoking and bullshitting and went to sleep about 1230. i awoke at 333 am which has happened quite allot in my life i walked twords the guest bath and past her open door that led down a hall to her room. i saw a bright ass light and stopped to look cause it looked like headlights or spot lights. we were in a seclude area up in the mountains. so i walk back and was shocked when i looked in her room i saw the pulse of light and my relative floating 2 feet off her bed with three small squat beings standing to the side of her bed by her feet and two tall Grey looking beings a her side by her head. i was froze stiff and tried to scream but could not the three squat beings came directly in front of me my head lowered to there eye level which was below my waist and i was held at that position staring at him froze like i was paralyzed. the Grey beings set her down and walked twords the foot of the bed . it pointed at me and i rose back up to normal height. the three short beings walked off and disappeared with the other Grey . the being just pointed at my relative and said her time is almost up do you want to work with us. my relative opened her eyes and said no not him he is not there yet and the tall being left. pretty fucked up don't you think

[the yeag]

anybody else see some weird shit

[Hamlet]

That's a pretty cool alien story. What did your cousin have to say about it the next day? I'd have her pump the aliens for some off-worldly info., like the formula for cold fusion, big bang quests, etc..

[bud luv]

Dude, that's called LSD.

[Delta9 UK]

I've seen 2 UFO's, I have a few hours flying time and I'm big into aircraft so I know what I'm looking at.

First was when I was 15 and walking home one night on a cold clear night, I wasn't drunk or stoned. It was a sort of diamond shape, it hovered then accelerated across the sky and stopped again and hovered some more. Then it was gone. It was hovering low and travelled (I know the area very well) well over 6 miles in less than a second.

No helicopter can do that. No jet I know of can do that, not with a hover after.

Wasn't scary it was just "Whoa" so fast. I knew I wasn't looking at something I could easily explain.

Another time was when I was with my parents and there was something hovering over our back garden. At least that's what it looked like - our house backed onto a field at the time.

I looked up and I couldn't see any lights or anything but the really fucked up thing was that there was something there - it was blacking out the stars in a perfect disk shape. I can't judge how big it was - there was no cloud and no real point of reference - just a black patch in the sky.

It freaked my dads mate out so much he puked, the neighbours all saw it too. It sat there for about 30 mins - no noise - nothing.

I thought I saw it move then it was just gone and the stars were back. I don't know of any natural cloud/atmospheric effect that would cause that.