i haven't had experience with the shit in the bottle, so i honestly couldn't tell you one way or the other.. and their actual salvia, seems like just the leaves, which will provide you with nothing more than a waste of money.. go to iamshaman.com and find salvia 10x extract... i bought my salvia from iamshaman and they're a reputible company and can be trusted.. reasonable pricing as well... they have lower then 10x, and higher than 10x, but 10x is a good starting medium.. i'd really suggest not going higher... but for the most chance of actually feeling anything, i'd start with 10x... just trust me and get the 10x.