New Congress prepares to challenge Bush

[harris7]

i would like to hear a little more details about what they want.

Energy-- do they want to move to green?
9/11--- are they following us "nut jobs" and our theories?
stem cell- ?? for organs? i'm not up to date on this one
Student loans-- it's hard not to have a loan when it costs 30 000 a year...

[BlueCat]

I know they are trying to get farm funds for ethanol and to set mandatory limits on GHG emissions by the end of 2007.

And producers of solar power, wind power, geothermal power and other alternative technologies are expected to receive new tax benefits

As for 9/11 first they are going to implement the rest of the 9/11 commision proposals....

which would require private companies to prepare for terrorism and the government would have to inspect cargo on passenger planes and shipping containers leaving the largest ports. Airport screeners would be given whistle-blower protection, money would be set aside to develop technology for detecting explosives at checkpoints and an appeals process would be established for airline passengers mistaken for terrorists on watch lists.

As for student loans the interest will go down...see above

The stem cell bill would reduce restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

[medicinal]

Energy! here's my question. When an internal combustion engine will run on Hydrogen (the propellant) and Oxygen, basically is that not water? so to make it work, all we have to do is separate them and feed them back into the engine at a certain ratio, thereby propelling the car down the road and emitting water out of the exhaust. Is this not the perfect solution to the energy crises as the planet is made up of 2/3 water surface area, NOT, the energy companies long ago put the kaibash on this one. I recently saw a news show in Vegas where this dude had made a device to do just what I've described and they were going to come back the next day and explain how it worked! Being extremely interested, I watched that stations news for a week, every newscast, and never saw another word about it. Sound familiar. The energy companies know the secret and have paid big bucks to keep it. Hydrogen is highly flamable, it would make a perfect automobile fuel, but how are the energy companies going to make money if you can stick a garden hose in your fuel tank, and drive off? When the oil supply gets to the point where they need it to make other products, like plastics etc., then we may see some kind of Hydrogen fuel, but you can bet your bottom dollar, we'll never see the garden hose trick!

[mrdevious]

Hydorgen fuel's been around for a while Medicinal.... well at least the idea. The problem with it is that the energy needed to separate the hydrogren from the oxygen is enourmous, and thus takes tonnes of energy production before creating enough hydrogen for a less-than-equivilant amount.

[Hamlet]

They can dismiss hydrogen because of the technology involved. But there's not a reason in the world that the Gov. should be paying farmers not to plant when cars can run on alcohol. ...and I'm not talking this 10% bullshit either. I guarantee that's Exxon's influence using those billions to keep their product in demand.

[harris7]

Energy! here's my question. When an internal combustion engine will run on Hydrogen (the propellant) and Oxygen, basically is that not water? so to make it work, all we have to do is separate them and feed them back into the engine at a certain ratio, thereby propelling the car down the road and emitting water out of the exhaust. Is this not the perfect solution to the energy crises as the planet is made up of 2/3 water surface area, NOT, the energy companies long ago put the kaibash on this one. I recently saw a news show in Vegas where this dude had made a device to do just what I've described and they were going to come back the next day and explain how it worked! Being extremely interested, I watched that stations news for a week, every newscast, and never saw another word about it. Sound familiar. The energy companies know the secret and have paid big bucks to keep it. Hydrogen is highly flamable, it would make a perfect automobile fuel, but how are the energy companies going to make money if you can stick a garden hose in your fuel tank, and drive off? When the oil supply gets to the point where they need it to make other products, like plastics etc., then we may see some kind of Hydrogen fuel, but you can bet your bottom dollar, we'll never see the garden hose trick!

A lot of people need to understand that oil and gas is our energy source! If we stop using them we need a new one.

Hydrogen and Ethanol are both energy mediums (like a battery) with might make personal vehicles possible after were done with fossil fuels.
As well they use the hydrogen fuel cell, not a internal combustion engine.

But, with out a new energy source they are both useless! These ideas are also very impractical as Mr D said about Hydrogen; We need to create it and that takes energy,â?¦ were are we going to get that energy? Now that is the big question!

I think car and oil companies are funding the hydrogen and ethanol hype as it is stalling us. Its making people think that we can just switch over to them and not have to reduce our consumption of energy. This is wrong. Both technologies are very impractical and would be very expensive to use, so if we ever use them it will be in a very few applications if any.

15 years ago Cali had electric cars which were so efficient that if you generated the power for them with coal burning power plants they would give off less CO2 per Km than a normal vehicle. They have their draw backs too, and because of that they are only appropriate for 90% of drivers. (dosn't sound to bad to me)

Check out the movie â??the death of the electric carâ?�

[MastaChronic]

if your interested in how hemp can be used to produce a much greater supply of ethanol than corn while using less space, read jack herers book "the emperor wears no clothes"
found at jackherer.com
its free to read.

[medicinal]

In my previous post I was Implying (having never seen the device) that a simple device would separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in a ratio compatible for burning in the internal combustion engine. There was a film made in the '30's about a pill you could drop in the tank of water that transformed this into fuel. Again, having never seen this in person, I can only wonder if this is possible. If it is, can you Imagine the concern of the energy companies. Maybe this belongs in the conspiracy forum, but I whole heartedly believe if this was possible, the energy companies would surely want to keep it secret. Come on, Remember the Hindenberg, That was Hydrogen burning, If they can run a car on natural gas, or propane, why not Hydrogen. I'll leave it up to your imagination. The perfect fuel, water! Who knew!