god vs. no god

[greendove]

Greendove...

The "not knowing" could drive me insane.

Aw, thanks. What got me out of going crazy by the "not knowing" (and I almost did at one point) was the understanding that I really can't know, or that knowing is something I'm not supposed to do... yet.

[Pass That Shit]

And just to clarify, it's not "we", it's "he".

We don't claim that "our" word is true, we claim that "his" word is true.

[JeenYuss]

the bible was written by MEN... human beings, for all i know, that whole book could be intended to be a fictitious parody/story/theorhetical idea that was accidentally published as "gods" word, not to mention how much it's changed, re-written, mistranslated etc.

95% of EVERYTHING between those covers is wrong/fictitious/bullshit/etc.

conclusion:

god may or may not exist, but the bible is BULL SHIT

[wrasler]

i believe in God by this premise: where did everything originate? there had to have been a starting point somewhere. if a higher being did not create it, how did it come into being? food doesn't spontaneously appear on a table. it comes from ingredients that did not appear out of thin air.

[MastaChronic]

i believe in God by this premise: where did everything originate? there had to have been a starting point somewhere. if a higher being did not create it, how did it come into being? food doesn't spontaneously appear on a table. it comes from ingredients that did not appear out of thin air.

neither does a god, who created god? and who created the creator of that god? and who created that creator?
the creationists had it right all along, intelligent life cant just appear out of no where, thats why there can be no god.

[greendove]

i believe in God by this premise: where did everything originate? there had to have been a starting point somewhere. if a higher being did not create it, how did it come into being? food doesn't spontaneously appear on a table. it comes from ingredients that did not appear out of thin air.

Just because everything had to have a starting point, it doesn't automatically mean that it was a God that created everything. I don't precisely know where my desk lamp came from either, but I bet it wasn't God. Thomas Aquinas was made famous by this argument, but it's still based on a logical fallacy.

[bavet]

Bible was written by men insprired by the Holy Sprit, The Bible was written over many hundreds of years by many men but if read, will seem to be by One Person Because the Holy Sprit Wrote it. It IS the Word Of God, the final authoriy in all matters. All you need to know to live this life as God intended. Accept it or reject it, belive in God and His Son Jesus or don't. where you spend eternaty is tottaly up to you weather you belive or not. Forget the religous mumbo jumbo, God isn't about that. It is all about a one on One personal relationship with God through Jesus. For those that belive, know, for those that don't God stands at the door and knocks waitting for you. Tomorrow is promasied to no one. Something tells me spending eternaty with my Creator is much better then eternaty seporated from my Creator. www.liveprayer.com God bless

[the yeag]

I just wish one of you snake handling bible thumpers would quote me some scripture for me to recite to the Mormons and Jehovah's that come around recruiting that shows that soliciting religion is wrong..

[MastaChronic]

Bible was written by men insprired by the Holy Sprit, The Bible was written over many hundreds of years by many men but if read, will seem to be by One Person Because the Holy Sprit Wrote it. It IS the Word Of God, the final authoriy in all matters. All you need to know to live this life as God intended. Accept it or reject it, belive in God and His Son Jesus or don't. where you spend eternaty is tottaly up to you weather you belive or not. Forget the religous mumbo jumbo, God isn't about that. It is all about a one on One personal relationship with God through Jesus. For those that belive, know, for those that don't God stands at the door and knocks waitting for you. Tomorrow is promasied to no one. Something tells me spending eternaty with my Creator is much better then eternaty seporated from my Creator. www.liveprayer.com God bless

first of all, why would the church accept some doctines while rejecting others?
the end of days described by paul said that at the end jesus will descend into hell and free everyone, yet its not in the bible becuase the church rejected it.
why?
because then people would believe that they wouldnt spend an eternity seperated from their creator. thats why.
of course, i think the bible is a load of fictional bullshit with good morals in it and that is what it really is.
before the bible was ever written and people didnt believe in this "living god", did they get sent to "hell"?
would this god punish people because they had no idea of his existance?
why do you need the bible in order to believe in god?
shouldnt it be the other way around?
you need god in order to believe in the bible?
but if you had never heard of the bible then you would have never heard of this god.
if you were seperated completely from any and all religious things and never once heard anyone ever talk about god or the bible, would you believe there was a higher power?
how could you? youve never heard of such a thing.

[nikweiser]

exactly.
and also adding to mastachronic about who created god? you need 2 to make something, you can just make something with 1, i.e. god. this world was created by evolution, and TIME.. time created all the things that have evolved from just rocks and water and heat and gravity and weathering and the cycle the earth has been going through for ages..
how did "god" put adam and eve on this earth? how did god just snap his fingers and make our creatures?
also a friend of mine was telling me he asked his pastor if his dog would go to heaven when it died and his pastor said it wouldnt go anywhere.. i dont get why the christian religion animals have no soul? i mean if my cats and dog dont have souls, i dont have a soul.. they are living creatures like us.. everything is a living creature we are not something else other then a creature.. which is what the religion makes us look like when we say animals have no soul.

sorry if non of that makes sense.. its just more ranting and it makes sense to me thats what matters =]
happy tokes