View Poll Results: What should be done about Iran ?
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Hope that diplomacy works
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Multi-pronged attack,with conventional weapons
1 25.00% -
Accelerate the RNEP program,(nuclear bunker-busters)
1 25.00% -
Allow Iran to nuke Tel-Aviv and London first-before responding
1 25.00%
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11-21-2004, 10:15 AM #1OPSenior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
To Destroy Iranā??s Nuclear Bomb Program, 350 Targets Must Be Hit (Debka)
Debka ^ | Nov. 19, 2004 | Debka
According to one official with access to the material, a ā??walk-inā? source approached US intelligence earlier this month with more than 1,000 pages purported to be Iranian drawings and technical documents, including a nuclear warhead design and modifications to enable Iranian ballistic missiles to delivery an atomic strike. The warhead design is based on implosion and adjustments aimed at fitting the warhead on existing Iranian missiles.
DEBKAfileā??s military experts believe the data referred to the Shehab-3 and its improved version, the Shehab-4.
The US official said he would not have revealed this much had not Powell alluded to the intelligence publicly. If the information is confirmed, it would mean the Islamic republic is further along than previously known in developing a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it.
According to DEBKAfileā??s Washington sources, the Pentagonā??s most recent game model on military measures to dispose of Iranā??s nuclear threat concludes it will be necessary to topple the Islamic republicā??s regime at the same time.
The first stage would be a bombing mission against the regimeā??s primary prop, the Revolutionary Guards.
The second stage would be the destruction of known and probable nuclear sites ā?? a much harder mission given the hundreds of sites known and unknown number and carefully camouflaged underground behind cunning window-dressing. US intelligence estimates as many as 350 sites. It does not have precise knowledge of which are the most important or even which are active.
The most secret section of the latest report the International Atomic Energy Agencyā??s director Mohammed ElBaradai has drafted on Iranā??s nuclear program is also the most embarrassing for the international nuclear watchdog. We reveal exclusively that when inspectors arrived in Iran in mid-May and asked to revisit installations they saw in February or April, they were astonished to find empty spaces. When they questioned their Iranian escorts, they were greeted with blank stares. ā??What installations?ā? the officials asked.
According to our sources, US officials involved in the Iranian nuclear issue have no doubt that the installations were not destroyed but removed to secret subterranean sites probably built under military bases scattered around the country and that the Iranians are industriously advancing their forbidden programs.
Five months later, we have discovered one of those clandestine destinations to be the Nour ā??nuclear suburbā? of Tehran.
Further additional info provided by a Freeper:
From www.EdwardJayEpstein.com
Question:
General Yuri Baluyevsky, the Russian Deputy Chief of Staff said in Moscow on June 2002, "Iran does have nuclear weapons. These are non-strategic nuclear weapons."
Is there a Russian connection to Iran's nuclear program that might explain this assessment?
Answer:
Yes, Russia is the prime subcontractor for Iran' nuclear program. Consider the following:
1) Russia is building six nuclear reactors for Iran, four at Bushehr and two at Akhvaz, and a uranium-conversion plant that can be used for, among other things, uranium enrichment.
2) The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) laboratory at Seibersdorf, Austria, ascertained that Iranian centrifuges made indigenously in Iran ā?? not imported gear ā?? showed traces of on enriched uranium with a purity level of 36 percent U-235. Russia appears to have been the source of this enriched uranium, since the IAEA lab also found a "likely match" between the atomic signatures of the 36% uranium used in Russian submarines and the traces gathered from Iranian centrifuges.
3) Russian 36% U-235 could easily be raised to weapon-grade U-235 with either centrifuges or the laser isotope separating system it reportedly acquired from Russia . ( It would take just 25 centrifuges to convert 70 pounds of 36% U-235 into 90% weapon-grade U-235.)
4) The AIEA also determined that Iran produced polonium 210, an isotope used by Russian scientists (in combination with beryllium) to ensure the chain reaction leading to a nuclear explosion begins at the right time.
5) According to a report in the Jerusalem Post in 1998, a defecting Iranian nuclear scientist's provided an account of Iran's efforts to acquire nuclear weapons to Israel. These efforts included using Russian criminal intermediaries to buy four tactical nuclear weapons and enriched uranium from Kazakhstan. According to this account, Iranian technicians were unable to disarm the passive locks on these weapons. So it bought two additional tactical nuclear warheads directly from Russia, which were shipped to the Lavizan military base outside Teheran.
6) Iran has also tested the Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile and is developing other missiles that could become intercontinental merely by adding a solid-fueled stage. These ballistic missiles, which lack pinpoint accuracy, would only be useful for carrying nuclear warheads. According to the Rumsfeld Commission in 1998 "The ballistic missile infrastructure in Iran is now more sophisticated than that of North Korea, and has benefited from broad, essential, long-term assistance from Russia.Torog Reviewed by Torog on . To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit To Destroy Iranā??s Nuclear Bomb Program, 350 Targets Must Be Hit (Debka) Debka ^ | Nov. 19, 2004 | Debka According to one official with access to the material, a ā??walk-inā? source approached US intelligence earlier this month with more than 1,000 pages purported to be Iranian drawings and technical documents, including a nuclear warhead design and modifications to enable Iranian ballistic missiles to delivery an atomic strike. The warhead design is based on implosion and adjustments Rating: 5
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11-21-2004, 04:49 PM #2Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
Sources close to the Bush administration have warned that Tony Blair will have to choose between the EU's pursuit of the diplomatic track and a more hardline approach from the White House on Iran.
It is my understanding that.......................
Seen from Washington it means that Iran is a hostile, terror-sponsoring state, meddling in Iraq and on the verge of acquiring weapons with which it could target Tel Aviv (or any where else in range).
The European view, has sought to negotiate a uranium enrichment freeze rather than confront Tehran. Iran, seen from the European point, is a more complex situation, because of its culture and recent history, it sees itself as a player on the world stage and its endless foot-dragging over nuclear inspections, seen in this light, is inward looking, defensive and as much about pride as hostile intentions.
It is my opinion that Blair will stick with the White House approach. Blair has shown complete solidarity with Bush and will not change on an issue that requires,in my opinion, even more solidarity.
I believe that war will deffinatly go ahead in Iran and it is another brick in the wall for new world order.
Peace
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11-21-2004, 10:06 PM #3Junior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
How about an "Iran is falsely being built up to be a threat as a pretext to invade for covert motives just as was the case with Iraq" choice for that poll? Or "that article is a blatant piece of propaganda being used to manipulate misguided minds and further the government's agenda"?
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11-21-2004, 11:20 PM #4Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
that would be my choice as well m and m.
down with censorship! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
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11-22-2004, 12:34 AM #5Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
Sounds like a good choice to me
Peace
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11-22-2004, 04:26 AM #6Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
And its perfectly fine that AMERICA has the majority of these WMD in their back yard but hey...do you see any weapons inspectors in America...NOOOOOOO, coz we all know that they will never ever use them....
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11-22-2004, 01:44 PM #7Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
Why would America need WMD's?
Order out of Chaos is the theory.................
You do the Math
Peace
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11-22-2004, 03:15 PM #8Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
what about the WMD's in nam that where put in in the 1960's and we still control
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12-02-2004, 07:42 PM #9Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
350 targets...thats all?
Im sure we have 350 gps guided bunker busters
probably take about 15 minutes...no more iran nuclear bomb worries for 10 -20 years
Or we can HOPE that these REASONABLE people wont develop one
and HOPE thata major western city isnt vaporized by some crazed mullah
i vote for the sure thing
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12-04-2004, 05:51 PM #10Senior Member
To Destroy Iran's Nuclear Bomb Program,350 Targets Must Be Hit
do you think that we can actually afford to do that? 1 false war is enough.
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