My views on abortion, personal perspective.

[harris7]

Just because there are living cells, and they are human cells, doesn't really make it an actual human life. Can those cells feel pain? Can those cells THINK? Can those cells feel emotion? Do those cells even know they are there?

yes it does. It dosn't make it a person.What makes a "human life" is a live cell with 46 chromosomes.

your talking about what makes a person

[baisez le monde.]

The essential part of being a person is EMOTION. And I went in to all that about fingers and whatnot to explain that its NOT possible for a clump of cells to feel any emotion, may those cells be a detached finger or a zygote on the uteran wall. It's just not possible! You need a brain for emotion and a brain is something those cells do not have.

[harris7]

The debate is about when does the mass of cells become a person.
I apologize for using Human b4 I meant person

It doesn’t matter if it is alive. Humans don’t care about life, we only care about ourselves.

That’s why pro life’ers are so opposed to killing even 16 human cells. They believe in their own superiority (or at least they want to). Do you see any of these people getting upset that someone killed a fly (thousands of cells) or a cow for food (billions of cells).
No you don’t, it’s because people don’t care about life. That is why we are not debating life.

We are debating the one thing humans care about, Human life.

[harris7]

The essential part of being a person is EMOTION. And I went in to all that about fingers and whatnot to explain that its NOT possible for a clump of cells to feel any emotion, may those cells be a detached finger or a zygote on the uteran wall. It's just not possible! You need a brain for emotion and a brain is something those cells do not have.

you realize that you are trying to argue with someone that you agree with?

[baisez le monde.]

yes it does. It dosn't make it a person.What makes a "human life" is a live cell with 46 chromosomes.

your talking about what makes a person

If everyone understands what I am saying, then why the need to correct me?!!

[baisez le monde.]

you realize that you are trying to argue with someone that you agree with?

I'm not really arguing. Just talking. Rambling.

[dutch.lover]

haha just trying to clear things up i guess. once somebody mentioned the word "human" instead of "person" it caused some pretty bad confusion.

[slipknotpsycho]

since when did the argument/debate go from whether aborting a person/future person to when technically a person is alive or not?? look you can't put labels on it, either way, some day (unless something goes wrong karma forbid <i don't believe in god>) that will be a person... i think people are trying to get too technical with it... it's either right to kill a person or it's not... until scientists can prove at what point an embreo <sp??> or zygote or whatever, is capable of conscience thought, it shouldn't matter what stage a pregnancy is at... it's either wrong, or it's right.... stop trying to make it so technical...

[halo]

I agree with you way of the leaf. And basically for the same reasons. Most people say that abortion should be ok in rape. And i agree with that to to an extent. But the saddest thing is that rape victims only account for about 1% of abortions. The majority of abortions are done out of conveinience. Its truly sad.

[wayoftheleaf]

i read the thread about the thirteen year old girl getting an abortion with the permission of a judge.

She was in state custody.

But if she was my kid i'd have locked her in her room and sent food and water through a flap until she came to her senses.

If my daughter(if i hever have one)ever got an abortion, As soon as she hit 18 i can't say I would disown her. I know that the love of your kid is (for some people) beyond any love you have ever experienced before. So I can't say that I would do that. But I feel like I would.

I am seriously considering creating a bomb shelter and living under ground with my wife and kids until we all die.

Just seems better than the world corrupting another generation.

Of course I would have a giant grow op.