Quote Originally Posted by benagain
The only problem with "fact" is that no one was around when the earth took a crap last time. There is no hard eveidence. Just some left over residue and theories from different people as to what it means. Hell, even though most people can agree on it, no one is 100% sure on what killed the dinos. You see my problem? If there was a guy with tools and a notepad with pen 10 million years ago and he's been writing shit down, then I might have a little more faith in the numbers. I still think what everyone does to hep the environment is great (I'm an outdoors guy myself), but I'm not gonna be 'scared' into making a huge life change over some speculative ideas and theories.

If everyone else on the planet went insane, would that make me crazy?
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I am sorry but there is evidence it is NO LONGER speculative ideas or theories if anyone tells you differently they are simply ignorant to the lastest facts. There was a huge push to make it "appear" that global warming is not true. It was the work of the oil and coal corporations in order to buy some extra time. They knew it was coming that is why they doctored the test results not only that exxon put out false reports just so they could reap in more profits...

The UK Guardian reported on September 20 that a letter from the Royal Society, Britainā??s national academy of science, has called on ExxonMobil Corp. to stop funding dozens of organizations that have ā??misrepresented the science of climate change by outright denial of the evidenceā?. Exxon has been distributing millions of dollars to what Climate Science Watch terms the global warming denial machine....
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/i...-exxon-letter/

http://www.reportalert.info/ra/Exxon.htm

Expert: Bush Hides Global Warming Evidence

October 27, 2004, By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) -- The Bush administration is trying to stifle scientific evidence of the dangers of global warming in an effort to keep the public uninformed, a NASA scientist said Tuesday night
http://atkeison.org/home/news/news_2...gEvidence.html

There is no doubt it is happening PLEASE PLEASE believe it....
They can take ice core samples that go back thousands of years. Ice captures the gases that were in the atmosphere back then. You can actually see just how fast the world is warming. When they look at the natural climate change before humans were on the earth there is a pattern but once the insudtrial age of humans kicked in the CO2 in the ice increases to a HUGE amount and each year is worse.

The best way to SEE what is happening is to look at the glaciers...

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming....inareport.html

Then theres the poor polar bears

It may be the latest evidence of global warming: Polar bears are drowning.
Scientists for the first time have documented multiple deaths of polar bears off Alaska, where they likely drowned after swimming long distances in the ocean amid the melting of the Arctic ice shelf. The bears spend most of their time hunting and raising their young on ice floes.
In a quarter-century of aerial surveys of the Alaskan coastline before 2004, researchers from the U.S. Minerals Management Service said they typically spotted a lone polar bear swimming in the ocean far from ice about once every two years. Polar-bear drownings were so rare that they have never been documented in the surveys.
But in September 2004, when the polar ice cap had retreated a record 160 miles north of the northern coast of Alaska, researchers counted 10 polar bears swimming as far as 60 miles offshore. Polar bears can swim long distances but have evolved to mainly swim between sheets of ice, scientists say.
The researchers returned to the vicinity a few days after a fierce storm and found four dead bears floating in the water. "Extrapolation of survey data suggests that on the order of 40 bears may have been swimming and that many of those probably drowned as a result of rough seas caused by high winds," the researchers say in a report set to be released today.
While the government researchers won't speculate on why a climate change is taking place in the Arctic, environmentalists unconnected to the survey say U.S. policies emphasizing oil and gas development are exacerbating global warming, which is accelerating the melting of the ice. "For anyone who has wondered how global warming and reduced sea ice will affect polar bears, the answer is simple -- they die," said Richard Steiner, a marine-biology professor at the University of Alaska.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article..._20061214.html