im 15 and my gf is with baby...

[MastaChronic]

Sorry about the news, Lil Josh. What MastaC, our resident intellectual and king of sensitivity.

thankyou bird girl!
i will graciously accept this kind and *very* generous compliment

[birdgirl73]

Sometime--and I pray that it'll be soon--I hope you'll learn that making the selfless decision to let people who are more suited to raise a baby would be the ultimate act of loving and taking care of that child. Life is hard enough under the best of circumstances for kids today. And there are ways for the child not to feel he/she was rejected. Open adoptions, for instance. You have to step back and look at it from a selfless, what's-good-for-the-child perspective rather than an I-couldn't-bear-to-give-it-away perspective.

I hope to goodness you both have intelligent, caring parents.

[Frivolous248]

Well, good luck...Its good that you're willing to man up if she does have a kid, but its going to be HARD to raise a child when you still are one.

Hopefully your parents will help, especially financially-wise. You should definitely get a job too and do your part to support it. Hell dude, look for a job now. Oh wait...your 15, well still look. Then you can save up a bunch of money that will all go to that kid if its born.

[rottenPauL]

i think if this kid recieves true love from u, your gf and your parents, can be raised properly. And along with it, you grow up yourself. You r only 15 but thats not bad, a responsibility like this will make you mature and strong to face life. And dont feel lost, life is hard and nobody will show any mercy, take my word on this, but life is also beautiful, and its not short, it is as big as we make it. Life decided to make you grow up earlier, please dont turn your back on that decision. And dont kill your child. Raise it, its in your hand.

[harris7]

I have spoke on one similar thread to this, and I’ll pretty much say the same thing.

Lets all stop polling our opinions. For this young lad is not you and he is not here for your opinion but for your advice.

I’m going to do my best to lay out some things to think about and try to make it unbiased but I’m sure it will be a little bit. Sorry for that. So, just so you know I am pro-choice. This means I believe everyone should be able to choose and not be forced to keep it.

You know you have three options abortion, adoption and acceptance.
Here is what I know and what I’ve thought about all of them:

Abortion-
since you know early on that she is pregnant you can use a chemical method. This has some side effects on the woman but I do not believe it is life threatening.(look into this b4 you do it, if you do it)

-Most objection to abortion is on religious and moral grounds. Pro-life people generally believe that the embryo or fetus is a human life and should be held equal to every other human life. Thus they consider it murder.
Yes, birdgril is correct it is a “life” in the way any cell is a life. This is not meant to be against abortion it is just a scientific fact.

-What I think is most important is that any grounds to support or not support abortion are not on scientific grounds it is 100% a matter or opinion and morality. This is why I am so opposed to people shoving their opinions down your throat, the choice is yours.

-Pragmatically if you consider the three individuals (mother, father and the child you create) in the two possible states. The fist having the kid now; the second having the kid in 15 years when you plan it. All three parties are better off in the second situation. This is not ment to be biased just something to consider

Adoption
-if you consider adoption you should consider the effects of child birth on the mother. I’m sure it is very hard on such young girls to have kids.
Is her life at risk? (I don’t know but you should check it out)

-by choosing adoption you avoid sacrificing your morals and avoid much of the negative consequences of having a child this young.
-but, will giving away a child you created affect your psychological state for the rest of your life? Ei. Will you feel guilty

Acceptance

-It will be difficult for you to provide the same quality of life you received for your child, as you are so young. This will make it harder to go to university or even stay in school now. If you choose this I hope you have a loving family to help you.

-I feel it is important for me to highlight the impact or rearing a young child. Young children go through several periods called critical periods. During this time they need certain kinds of stimulus to achieve their potential, physically and psychologically. These stimuli come in many forms and largely involve huge amounts of interaction with their parents and peers. Why I mention this is because you will probably not be in very good financial shape and may not be able to supply them with proper food or daycare and it can have a very significant permanent effect. Just something to think about.

[dutch.lover]

I am personally quite against abortion (surprising i know, since i am so liberal in all other aspects of sexuality), but I don't think raising a child would be the best idea for you either. Raising a baby will literally strip you of your childhood, and will take away your normal teenage years, where you party, go to university, etc. As for the baby, I can tell by the way you describe yourself and your parents, it will be deeply loved and cared for, but I still don't think it would have the best life it could have if it is being raised by children. A baby deserves all the best, and your lack of life experience (inevitable at your age, i don't mean to sound insulting at all) coupled with your lack of finances, is going to hinder that. I would suggest adoption, I know it's not a perfect solution, but I think it would be the best.

[dutch.lover]

In response to Harris7's comment about giving our opinions, I like to tell you all what my opinions are up front, so you know what my biases are, and can judge my writings accordingly. The reason I am against abortion, if anyone is wondering, is because of the thought that I am killing a child. This may or may not be the case scientifically (ie, what defines when a person is a person), but that's how I feel...

[officerleeroy]

One of my close friends got pregnant when she was 17 and was considering an abortion. She went to the doctor when she was around 3 weeks and you could already see a heartbeat. Needless to say she went through with it. I myself don't like the idea of abortion but I think you should just go with whatevery your girl wants. Good luck.

[someuser]

My ex-gf that I've talked about a few times here had an abortion, after my prompting, when we were teenagers. I loved that girl more then life itself (still do) but it torn us apart.

Till today she tells me she is haunted by what she did... Abortion is a very personal choice and despite my experience I'm still pro-choice... But, I personally would never want to go through that again and I especially wouldnt want to put another girl through that again... It's tough... She was like 3 months along and we had a ultra sound done (before 'we' decided what we were going to do)... I can still close my eyes and see my baby... A baby I had with a woman I loved more then anything else in life... And now it is gone forever... Just like my ex.


Think real hard before you go down that path.

[Torog]

okay okay, i was kind of joking about selling it (but you could if you wanted to)
i am serious about abortion though, its technically not alive until the third trimester, until then it is on par with a tumor.

Howdy chronic,

Take a look,at the pic of a baby,at 20 weeks..and tell us again,that it's just a "tumor"

Then take a look,at the pic of what you want Lil Josh to do to his son or daughter.

I hope and pray..that Josh and his girlfriend,won't choose to murder their un-born son or daughter.

Have a good one ...