9/11 US government conspiracy question

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah, dude, you seriously need to pull your conspiracy theory filled head out of your ass, again, your post has nothing to do with mine, you're still trying to make arguments backing up your theories, when i'm not even trying to debate them, in any way, shape or form.... and don't let me mislead you, i have no intention of reading what you have to say.... i don't care about the subject.... the government lies, we all know this... what good does it do to sit there and shoot holes in their reports, or vice versa, them shoot holes in the conspiracy theories? nothing.... it accomplishes nothing.. i have no intent to read or study either way into it, it's over and done with...

[xblackdogx]

Anyone who thinks bush is responsible for 911 is as foolish as the people who think Bush makes any decisions. He is a puppet to more intelligent and important people. Itâ??s not crazy to think the US gov would attack their own citizens theyâ??ve done some scary things in the past.

great to see another "nut job" on the website.

never knew that iraq was going to switch the currency to EURO's, so that was great info man!

and mate, Iraq has the 2nd largest oil reserves. Iraq's oil reserves have been off limits to the US when Sadaam was in power. Oil leads to the MOST CONTROL because it's limited (that's why they don't want cars running on water, hemp, sugarcane, etc).
also, Iraq had some of the greatest artifacts of the WORLD. The museums were all raided, so many of Mesopotamia's artifacts have been long gone. Hard to imagine no US Soldiers guarded it, or maybe they did for awhile, while Bush's Masters went in and robbed the place. Destroy all historical evidence and bam, history is yours to be written (kind of the reason why we say Egypt was built only 5-6k years ago.)
another reason so America can further advance their weapons technology. We buy millions of weapons every year, and if we're NOT in war they are going unused. We could sell them or test them out (i think the gov't thinks testing the weapons out is more FUN). You prob know how important America's defense system is, and well with continuing war they not only do the above but the amount of money you can receive for weapons during war is unbelievable (fucking 2 bil a week on iraq!), so of course everyone goes out happy, especially corps

[xblackdogx]

yeah, dude, you seriously need to pull your conspiracy theory filled head out of your ass, again, your post has nothing to do with mine, you're still trying to make arguments backing up your theories, when i'm not even trying to debate them, in any way, shape or form.... and don't let me mislead you, i have no intention of reading what you have to say.... i don't care about the subject.... the government lies, we all know this... what good does it do to sit there and shoot holes in their reports, or vice versa, them shoot holes in the conspiracy theories? nothing.... it accomplishes nothing.. i have no intent to read or study either way into it, it's over and done with...

hehe, i knew you were dumb, but god-damn!
poking holes in THEIR report on the internet is a step to get THINKERS to WAKE UP!, BUT you are completely right to say that this is kind of doing nothing.

anyway, i hope you have a nice life since you now regard me as dead. i have no hope for you, but good luck if you eventually see the THRIVING invisble prison you live in.

[slipknotpsycho]

hehe, i knew you were dumb, but god-damn!
poking holes in THEIR report on the internet is a step to get THINKERS to WAKE UP!, BUT you are completely right to say that this is kind of doing nothing.

anyway, i hope you have a nice life since you now regard me as dead. i have no hope for you, but good luck if you eventually see the THRIVING invisble prison you live in.

lol you just make me laugh.... but yeah, whatever i'm not gonna keep this shit up... getting thinkers to wake up... and then what? like anyone's EVER going to do anything about their fucked up governmental situation, other than continuing to pass on how the government is wrong, and where their errors are? do you actually believe anything is EVER going to come of it all, honestly?

[bobthenuker]

I'm not a firm believer in most of these 9/11 conspiracies that are going around, but to claim that the US is a great nation and had no reason to lie to its people or the world is bs.

The thing is that the governemnt may have had a hand in 9/11, or they may not have. What most people refuse to accept is that this is bascially the opinion of a person because none of us have enough full-proof evidence to proove anything. A lot of people claim that they have special knowledge or claim to see the truth while others turn a blind eye toward the whole thing. On the other hand the other side may have some other claims to call the other side crazy or whatnot. I suppose this is up for debate, but to dismiss the side that claims the gov't had a hand in 9/11 as being false, without much reason more than a "you're crazy", or "you have no respect for the families of those who died", is just ignorant. There are many sources out there that present very influential evidence on this subject. I have seen many documentaries, such as Loose Change, and all I can say is that it raises an eyebrow. I don't know how many people have seen such documentaries, but to all those nay-sayers, who don't believe in these so called "conspiracies" I suggest you check out some of these documentaries, and then go out and try to research somethings ureself b4 u go on calling those that beleive nutjobs.

A really good documentary is "why we fight". It bascially shows how war is making a select few men who are very influential in the governemnt very rich. The truth is that in this war, those companies that are providing all the guns and bombs, to army boots are becoming very rich The Military Industrial Complex is having a very good boom around now. The truth of the matter is that yes, the US is run by a select few corporations, and policy makers are influenced heavy by many of these companies. Many see war as a business, and it is indeed profitable, only when war is happening. In his farewell address, Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex getting out of hand, and a misplace of power. We are living that reality now. Just because we don't see it so clearly doesn't mean it's not happening.

For all those who people who claim this "conspiracy" is impossible because it was very well pulled off by Bush, and Bush is an idiot, well just because he is president doesn't make him the sole decision maker of this country, far from it actually. For all we know he may just be a puppet in the scheme of things. Once again that is something that we may never know. I'm not claiming there are a group of old white men int black suits pulling Bush's strings, but to claim that he is running most of the show is stupid. If the government did have a big hand in 9/11, I doubt he ran any of it, he probably just sat there idle, getting ready to piss about Iraq when they had that meeting the next day. There are such things as only public figurheads, who may not have much say in whats going on, but may be used as a scapegoat for an entire nation to trash on, or believe in.

[ZeldaG.]

i am prety saure the people getting the money from iraq's oil and the ppl investing in the war are different ppl,


(im trying to say the ppl who get oil dont care how much is invested in war... see what i mean?)

And what do you mean show respect to the dead!!?? your the only one bringing up the dead :S Noone was showing disrespect ot anyone exept ythe government which i have nothing against... (what i am saying is questioning the way someone died or whu dunnit? isnt disrespectful.)

i think bush is just some idiot putting on a dumb face for some evil mastermind proffesor genius sitting somewhere deep in his oil mine running the whole of america and its invicnible governemtn....


shit after this post i better pack and fucking leg it...

[Psycho4Bud]

I always love it when people show pics of how the airplane lined up with the building........here's a link to the physics lesson regarding that:

Real Life with Cartoon Physics
III. Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter.

This is one of the more interesting of the cartoon laws. This made me rather puzzeled as to how it would be used in the real world. At first I though about what would happen when a person hit a door. The person would leave a hole which looked excactly like them in the door. I initiall thought of how this could be used for law enforcement. In all banks, all of the doors could be equipted with a mechanizm which would have a button, and after the button is pushed, the door would take 10 to 20 seconds to open. This would make it so that if a person were robbing a bank and running from the poilce, they would have to wait 20 seconds to pass through the doors, while the police could have an access key which would allow the door to quickly open. This way if the person didn't want to wait for the door to open, they would have to run right through it. Thus leaving a 2-D picture of the theif which could be use in co-operation with the survalence cammeras to identify the culprit since you could see if the person fir the silhouette. The next idea would be good for garages since you wouldn't have to worry about the size of the enterance because the garage opening would fit your vehicle exactly.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[xblackdogx]

lol you just make me laugh.... but yeah, whatever i'm not gonna keep this shit up... getting thinkers to wake up... and then what? like anyone's EVER going to do anything about their fucked up governmental situation, other than continuing to pass on how the government is wrong, and where their errors are? do you actually believe anything is EVER going to come of it all, honestly?

No i don't believe anything will come out of it b/c of the general attitude of Americans. They are caught up in their own lives and can't sit or think still to connect some very important dots. and it's sad. i feel my fellow Americans are being used and if EVERY person gave a LITTLE effort we COULD DO SOMETHING.

until then, i will long for better healthcare, a PROPER education system, healthy food, adequate shelter, and clean water-- WHILE OUR CURRENT MASTERS WANT THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.

maybe i'll visit you in your invisble prison one day, until then: so long!

[harris7]

I always love it when people show pics of how the airplane lined up with the building........here's a link to the physics lesson regarding that:

This is one of the more interesting of the cartoon laws. This made me rather puzzeled as to how it would be used in the real world. At first I though about what would happen when a person hit a door. The person would leave a hole which looked excactly like them in the door. I initiall thought of how this could be used for law enforcement. In all banks, all of the doors could be equipted with a mechanizm which would have a button, and after the button is pushed, the door would take 10 to 20 seconds to open. This would make it so that if a person were robbing a bank and running from the poilce, they would have to wait 20 seconds to pass through the doors, while the police could have an access key which would allow the door to quickly open. This way if the person didn't want to wait for the door to open, they would have to run right through it. Thus leaving a 2-D picture of the theif which could be use in co-operation with the survalence cammeras to identify the culprit since you could see if the person fir the silhouette. The next idea would be good for garages since you wouldn't have to worry about the size of the enterance because the garage opening would fit your vehicle exactly.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Are you joking?

No one expects the plane to leave a silhouette. But it should leave some damage were the wings hit. As well as the two jet engines which weigh 15 tonnes each! Thatâ??s a lot of weight going very very fast, it would take a hell of a lot of cement to stop that.

I think the doc. Loose change does a good job of going over it. Everyone should watch it. Iâ??ve watched it and I donâ??t accept it as truth. But it raises some questions and points out some interesting facts.

BTW I do believe that some powerful people in the US gov were involved. And these people probably arenâ??t in the public sphere to point fingers at.

Did you know that Rumsfeld told America that the pentagon lost 2.3 trillion dollars the day b4 9/11. Lucky for him the nation forgot the next day, lucky guy.
Thatâ??s 8000 per person in the USA.

[Perp]

I don't know if they did it or not but I know one thing. False flag operations have been planned and used before by gov'ts to get what they want. eg Reichstag Fire, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods. A tool used to generate public support for aggressive action against a perceived enemy.

Plus the way the buildings collapsed so perfectly, no one can argue that it didn't look like a controlled demolition. I mean, a building fell down perfectly in its own footprint, that wasn't hit by a plane. And so when I saw the video of the firemen saying they heard a series of "pops" immediately before collapse, I couldn't accept there weren't explosives in the buildings.

So, whatever the truth is, we haven't heard it yet. And probably never will.

But we may live long enough to know the truth about JFK. I can't wait. No conspiracies here. Move along.