Understanding George Bush and USA foriegn policy

[Garden Knowm]

.... also why is it so terrible to talk in the political forum oppose to the lounge? What's the difference other that a mouse click?

Happy Holidays! :clap: :rastabong: :areindeer:

hello mr rebel..

ya see... the leaders (mods) of the forum have a direct impact on HOW HIGH we can get..




this thread is an important subject that facilitates greater awareness.. not all subjects have that EXPLICIT ability... so WHY not leave it in the lounge where more people CHILL!! why not give everybody a chance... alot of people don't go to the politics forum...

Ya see, every post in the lounge can actually be moved and put into another FORUM...

if I were a conspiracy theororist I would sat that this site is set up by the man to keep us down.. THE MAN knows that every topic HAS a more appropriate place than the lounge.. this lets THEM control us and our posts...

of course this is a total JOKE and I don't think the site was set up with that intention..

IF I were president I would keep this in the lounge... People like TOROG who are incredibly articulate and smart do ot just speak on ANY topic.

This topic is worthy and I demand it be moved back to the lounge..

LOL

iloveyou

trust the people and they will do as they are suppose to
the best leader is one who is not seen

[Psycho4Bud]

hello mr rebel..

ya see... the leaders (mods) of the forum have a direct impact on HOW HIGH we can get..

O.K..........

this thread is an important subject that facilitates greater awareness.. not all subjects have that EXPLICIT ability... so WHY not leave it in the lounge where more people CHILL!! why not give everybody a chance... alot of people don't go to the politics forum...

They could follow the redirect...true?

Ya see, every post in the lounge can actually be moved and put into another FORUM...

We do our best to put subject matter in the correct forums/sub-forums. There is currently over 40 forums and over 70 sub-forums. EVERY POST?? Really....

if I were a conspiracy theororist I would sat that this site is set up by the man to keep us down.. THE MAN knows that every topic HAS a more appropriate place than the lounge.. this lets THEM control us and our posts...

of course this is a total JOKE and I don't think the site was set up with that intention..


I really don't see how a web site can control you but your posts and threads....yes. This is their site. I think that when they set it up with over 110 forums and sub-forums their making a statement on thread organization based on interests. Since members request new forums/sub-forums.....I believe that they are looking for the same.

IF I were president I would keep this in the lounge... People like TOROG who are incredibly articulate and smart do ot just speak on ANY topic.

This topic is worthy and I demand it be moved back to the lounge..

LOL

iloveyou

trust the people and they will do as they are suppose to
the best leader is one who is not seen

This is a WORTHY POLITICAL topic. No question about that. If you don't feel that this is a political thread I'd love to hear why.

Demands........isn't that part of the problem today? People, countries, groups all making demands in which the results are seldom good? Where's the LOVE.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Torog]

Howdy Torog ...... how's you? .... did you see me? I waved!

Torog you sound like Juda ... he wanted Jesus to slay the evildoers, but he refused .... he kept spouting this liberal surrender monkey garbage about loving them instead ... so Juda turned against him ... even though he was butalize and had the power to fight back .... he didn't he have an unkind word against them .... what a freaking liberal eh? .... if Jesus were to return he would speak of love and how we are all one and that we are not separate from All That Is or God as you like to call her.
He Knows that killing is not the way because he would be killing a part of himself and All That Is.

Garden has it right .... it's about Love .... killing has never been the way .... and we will never find peace through war.
Consciousness (thoughts, feeling and emotions) creates form .... quatum physics proofs this ... if you believe in war .... war is what you will have .... I willing to bet in Garden's world there is a great deal of love seen ....

.... and correct me if I'm wrong Garden about the work thing .... it's about the joy of doing .... not work .... right? .....

Torog .... try visualizing peace and love towards your fellow man .... what do you have to lose?

If Jesus were to return the same thing would happen he would speak of loving your enemy as you would love yourself .... that would piss you off .... you'd say he was a "false" God and have him put to death ..... again. :noel:

.... also why is it so terrible to talk in the political forum oppose to the lounge? What's the difference other that a mouse click?

Happy Holidays! :clap: :rastabong: :areindeer:

Howdy GrowRebel,

I do understand where yer coming from..as a Christian,I should always choose to do what Jesus expects of us..He does want us to love our enemies as we would love ourselves..which is what I would rather do,I would rather trust in God and Jesus,than in bullets and bombs.

The part where I start gitting in trouble with,is that such a path allows those who choose to brutally tyrannize others..free reign to destroy all good on earth,as we know it. Rather than Good triumphing over Evil..we will be overcome with Evil..if we don't draw a line and stand against it.

When Jesus returns,and there are breaking news reports about it,I will abandon all talk of war and leave everything,in His Hand's.

However,I'm only human..and I can't bear to feed my family and my country and the Free World,to the wolves.

Is the solution,to abandon civilization and allow the wolves to have a feeding frenzy ?

Believe it or not-I do pray for God and Jesus,to end all the suffering and death..and bring peace to the world.

Have a Happy New year !

Have a good one ! :jointsmile:

[GrowRebel]

Wow .... this banning thing has me very confused ... I don't understand what the offense was .... and it not just at this board it's like that on Randi Rhodes fourm as well .... I'm missing something .... that's for sure.

Howdy GrowRebel,

I do understand where yer coming from..as a Christian,I should always choose to do what Jesus expects of us..He does want us to love our enemies as we would love ourselves..which is what I would rather do,I would rather trust in God and Jesus,than in bullets and bombs.

Why not do that then?

The part where I start gitting in trouble with,is that such a path allows those who choose to brutally tyrannize others..free reign to destroy all good on earth,as we know it. Rather than Good triumphing over Evil..we will be overcome with Evil..if we don't draw a line and stand against it.

Yes, but you seem to believe in war rather than peace ... so you continue to visualize the brutally and tyranny .... believing it will "destroy all good on earth" yet you have have no real proof that it will happen .... true there is unrest on parts of the earth, but that is base on a limiting belief that war is necessary.
You are right about standing against "evil", but it can be done without violence .... Jesus, Gandhi, King amoung other proved this .... why won't you believe it?

When Jesus returns,and there are breaking news reports about it,I will abandon all talk of war and leave everything,in His Hand's.

.... and what if I were to tell you that Jesus is here now .... within us all .... what would you say?

However,I'm only human..and I can't bear to feed my family and my country and the Free World,to the wolves.

Is the solution,to abandon civilization and allow the wolves to have a feeding frenzy ?

No .... the solution is to believe in peace and let go of the limiting belief that freedom and peace can only be found through war and killing. It's a contradiction in terms.

Believe it or not-I do pray for God and Jesus,to end all the suffering and death..and bring peace to the world.

Have a Happy New year !

Have a good one ! :jointsmile:

Now that sounds like a plan Torog .... keep that up no matter what!

Torog! We have got to get them to put in these cool emoticons at the other board .... especially this waving guy :noel: .... the ones here are way too cool!:stoned:

You have a good one to my friend .... Happy New Year everybody!:rastasmoke:
:noel:

[Bong30]

Peace is a dream..... death is reality.


sorry to break it to you guys.........

[GrowRebel]

.... says you ..... everyone doesn't perceive reality as you do .... sorry to break that to you ...

:noel:

[psychocat]

Firstly religion has no place in politics.
George Bush is what I call a mouthpiece since the decisions are actualy made not by him but as a joint collective decision of the whole goverment.
I have made my views clear on what I think of America trying to make everyone like them (if that isn't elitist thinking I don't know what is) and DICTATING who can do what.
George Bush isn't the problem it's his string pullers, the real puppet masters are the rich and powerful businessmen and the agenda for global financial domination.
Who gave the US the right to tell others how to live?
Americas answer to a problem always seems to be "We got nukes so you gotta do what we say or we'll bomb ya" ,, WTF !!
Killing is killing and the US goverment doesn't seem to care how many have to die for an ideaology that they believe is right but others see differently.
The US gov and it's supporters see nothing wrong in forcing others to think and do as they want them to, isn't that as wrong as you can be ?
Bullying weaker countries to follow your example is arrogant and ignorant.

[Garden Knowm]

If you don't feel that this is a political thread I'd love to hear why.

Demands........isn't that part of the problem today? People, countries, groups all making demands in which the results are seldom good? Where's the LOVE.

Yo Mr. BUD...

ummm.. iloveyou

yes any of the posts in the lounge can find a "better home" .. it is really subjective.. the site really has a lot of fantastic forums and choices... and because of this, each post can find an alternate home....

This was more of a joke and a friendly jab at "conspiracy theories" nothing more... nothing directed at this site or the owners or the moderators or the participants... just pure mental jibber jabber -

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DEMAND... yes, the word "demand" is obsurd... i know the internet does not convey JOKING well and I apologoze for causing further confusion... when I said demand... it was 100% absurd and silly and goofy and it was suppose to come across that way...

i never really demands anything.. 99.9% of the time everything happens perfect in my life.. the other .1% it happens perfect but I am to dense to realize this...

lovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelove...
iloveyou mr. bud

Mr. Bud and Mr. Knowm shake hands and hug and live happily ever after...

[Fengzi]

Peace is a dream..... death is reality.


sorry to break it to you guys.........

Bong!! You're back!! I was beginnig to wonder what happened to ya.

Anyhow, Bong's got a point. Yes, it would be wonderful if the world was filled with happiness, peace, and love but that just isn't the case. There are bad guys out there that need dealing with from time to time. Although we shouldn't always be the ones doing the dealing, if ya know what I mean. In any case, even if the U.S. is never in another war I seriously doubt the world will ever know true peace, certainly not in our time, or our children's, or even grandchildren's time.

That being said, yeah, George Bush is an idiot who has no concept of diplomacy or a sound foriegn policy. A while back someone commented something like "if he is such an idiot, how come he's been able to keep his party in power for so long?". Uh huh...well, maybe the question should really be "if he wasn't such an idiot, why did his party get such an ass kicking last November?" I must admit, I do enjoy my nightly anti-Bush portion of Letterman.

As for Torog, he's a hard core, right wing, Bible thumpin Texan. Do you really expect him to disagree with Dubya? Trying to debate with him is a waste of time. Like trying to tell a psychotic there really isn't bugs crawling all over him. No matter what you say, what constitutes reality in his mind is sufficiently skewed so that logic and true reality can never take hold.

[Bong30]

Bong!! You're back!! I was beginnig to wonder what happened to ya.

Anyhow, Bong's got a point. Yes, it would be wonderful if the world was filled with happiness, peace, and love but that just isn't the case. There are bad guys out there that need dealing with from time to time. Although we shouldn't always be the ones doing the dealing, if ya know what I mean. In any case, even if the U.S. is never in another war I seriously doubt the world will ever know true peace, certainly not in our time, or our children's, or even grandchildren's time.

That being said, yeah, George Bush is an idiot who has no concept of diplomacy or a sound foriegn policy. A while back someone commented something like "if he is such an idiot, how come he's been able to keep his party in power for so long?". Uh huh...well, maybe the question should really be "if he wasn't such an idiot, why did his party get such an ass kicking last November?" I must admit, I do enjoy my nightly anti-Bush portion of Letterman.

As for Torog, he's a hard core, right wing, Bible thumpin Texan. Do you really expect him to disagree with Dubya? Trying to debate with him is a waste of time. Like trying to tell a psychotic there really isn't bugs crawling all over him. No matter what you say, what constitutes reality in his mind is sufficiently skewed so that logic and true reality can never take hold.

Hey Fengzi.... I was chillin with the wife and Kids and keeping my Chi high for christmas.....

Dont need no crazy lib ruining my buzz during christmas with the family...LOL

I figure you guys needed a break from me also......( yes i know "amen to that")

Im kinda opinionated ("dont cha know"? said like lady in Fargo) LOL


IM back...Gs is gone..................I have a tube run in my back yard in 2 feet of standing snow.....all is right in the world............LOL