"Meanwhile, if you do not support equality, constitutional rights and exposure of facts to the public. You are a fascist not a libertarian."

Well it's a good thing I support those things ain't it? Now why do you think I am a fascist again? What are the facts that say I am a fascist? If you only use fact, then you must have some that says I am a fascist, right? Please, if I am a fascist I would like to know about it, so if you could make the facts known it would sure help in this matter.

"Sorry, anything that is true is not propaganda."

Your wrong on that. You have not a clue to the meaning of the word propaganda if you think that truth can not be used as propaganda. Nor do you know that your facts are really true or not. Your assuming that they are facts in the first place. You have not tried to verify them to me or yourself. Your going on what you have been told is fact. Is it really? Can you prove what it says in your copy paste is true? Just like with major media, there are people controling what you read from the so called Independent media also. I know it is hard for you to understand, but you should at least try to understand that just because it is on a web site you like doesn't make it true.

Here is a good site, and a few more for you also. I suggest you read up on it.

http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRig...a/Military.asp

http://www.propagandacritic.com/

Military
http://www.psywarrior.com/FM33-1.html

Propaganda Tactics & Fahrenheit 9/11
http://www.workingpsychology.com/fahrenheit.html

http://rhetorica.net/propaganda.htm
"Propaganda is a systematic propagation of a doctrine, ideology, or idea of value to the speaker. I think the key word in that definition is "systematic." Merely stating an ideology or doctrine does not constitute propaganda. The ideology or doctrine must be spread through a system of communication events with the long-term goal of getting the audience to adopt a new way of thinking.

The term is often used pejoratively to describe attempts to move public opinion in a way, or to a position, that the critic doesn't like. One person's propaganda is another's cogent discourse. We should, however, put a finer point on the definition. We may evaluate a messages as propaganda when we detect that the speaker is trying to deceive more than to persuade (understanding that this, too, is a judgment call)..

One of the ways propaganda may be identified is through the systematic use of these common fallacies:

Ad Hominem: This is argument "against the person," also known as "name-calling." This fallacy signals propaganda when it is used to label people in order to box them off into categories. For example, always using the adjective "arch" before the noun "conservative" is often a sign of a systematic intent to stereotype the individual so described.
Either/or: This is the fallacy that there are only two positions in a given argument or only two approaches to a given situation. Life is more complicated than such simplistic dichotomies lead us to believe.
Ad Populum: This is argument "to the people," in which the speaker appeals to mass emotions. This fallacy often requires the use of generalized or abstract terms that have more emotional appeal than substance, e.g. patriotism, socialism, motherhood, radical, public-spirited. A related fallacy is called the "bandwagon," in which the speaker appeals to the audience's desire to be part of a particular group.
Transference: The speaker uses the thoughts of a venerable or symbolic figure to bolster a contemporary position, e.g. claiming that George Washington would have approved of a certain "bipartisan" maneuver because he warned against the dangers of faction (party).
Stacking the Deck: One stacks the deck when he/she leaves out relevant information, tells half-truths, exaggerates, or otherwise tampers with the facts. We often see this technique used in the presenting of statistics and polling results.
Opinion as Fact: The danger of stating opinion as fact is most acute when the propagandist is making a report of an observed event and using adjectives or adverbs to spin the observations, e.g. "The candidate spoke convincingly about his tax program."