I hope you're enjoying the holidays

>>1000 watts after all is 1000 watts<<

Don't agree sir----and here's why:

The reason four 250W hps lights WILL NOT produce nearly as much as a single 1KW hps is INTENSITY.

>>Yeah right...commercial growers all over the world use rockwool or oasis cubes for propagation (so I'm sure we shouldn't use them)<<

Yes-----and with success, but the reasons I don't are:

1) don't like disposal of---- and replinishment of----hate anything that can't be reused.
2) rockwool and cause stem rot in waterculture if too damp and throw your ph off

>>and yes, there are methods, where you sow seeds right into rocks...<<

Actually, it's one seed per 2 inch netpot filled with growrocks-----a rainforest model 242 (42 two inch netpots placed in holes in the lid, a motor spins a shaft slighty submerged into the tub filled with adjusted nute solution slinging nutes to keep the growrocks wet--------my favorite way of starting seed because after the seed has sprouted and developed about a 3" root system they were transfered to the mediumless aero 6" tubes.

>>(lettuce) but, I would not advise this with your valuable pot seeds.<<

You certainly have a right to your opinion.

>>the ideas suggested by Alaric here could cost you seeds.<<

That's the last thing I want to have happed-----I wouldn't offer my suggestion if I wouln't feel comfortable doing it myself-------based on my experience.

>>You do not need any machine to clone or propagate seeds...That is total BS. <<

Most respectfully disagree sir-----and here's why:

Simplicity-------In my MEDIUMLESS aero system I kept mothers with just their roots hanging down into the nutes oxygenated with an airstone. Clones were taken and placed in an aero clonner (no medium again)------after a small root system formed-------placed into 6" pvc tubes where the roots were sprayed with nutes (no medium again)--------only extranious plant material to dispoved of---------I like that.

>>Don't get caught up in trying methods suggested by someone out of the blue. (unless you have seeds to waste)<<

Yes I agree------you should ask "why" do you believe that-----is it based on experience?------

>>It really sucks that on Xmas I have to read some guy suggesting
"forget rockwool" in a thread where I am trying to mentor a young grower.<<

I appoligize-----didn't mean to step on "your turf".

>>We all want to help and suggest alternative methods to new growers, but Godbud already had a homemade drip...So how about letting me teach him how to use it. HUh?<<

I think that should be up to him-----don't you----- based on WHY we offer our opinions-----unless you are godbud to?

Latewood, the threads I've read here are like going back in time compared to the knowledge presented on overgrow and cannabisworld.

Alaric