If God is real, why are there atheists?

[harris7]

I guess my issue is that the philosophical issue has never been addressed. In the multiple incarnations of this thread which seem to haunt the spirituality section of these boards, it always turns into a slugfest between christians and atheists, both of whom spend most of their time defining their opponents views for them.


And MrD, I'd be interested in hearing how that went for you, or, did not went for you...

I started visiting the spirituality section of cannabis hoping to engage in some solid philosophical debate. But most people here donâ??t really understand philosophy, IMO.

The problem here, which seems to halt our progression is that everyone on here is only willing to argue from their own specific view point. So if one wants to engage another they must first understand their view then discuss. And the discussion really donâ??t involve anyone else, cuz everyoneâ??s got different beliefs.

Personally I can and will argue for anything, if asked. Its all philosophy to me.

The way I see it is that everyone here can philosophize only based on their own beliefs and their own assumptions.

I like to engage in philosophical debates based on my own beliefs or others or whatever. Its quite entertaining to structure arguments on other beliefs or against my own.

Basically on here I also always base my arguments on premiseâ?? that I believe. (unless rebutting). I just think a lot of people on here donâ??t like using assumptions that they donâ??t agree with.

Poly, I believe you have a further education in philosophy than I so Iâ??m sure you understand the enjoyment one can achieve through philosophy. To me itâ??s just like a sport.
Someone defines the specific rules, for God I guess one usually defines it as omni-benevolent, omniscient and omnipotent (as in a sport these should just be accepted during the argument). We all know the basic rules ie. Logic. And lets go. I hoped for this kind of debate but it seems people just donâ??t like to argue from any other view point than their own beliefs.

Man, Iâ??m totally down for going into some interesting philosophical shit Iâ??ve been thinking of. Iâ??m sure you understand that so much of it is very complex and I guess I doubt Iâ??d ever be able to properly explain it as any good debate on here keeps getting staled. But, if you wana start a thread Iâ??m down. Iâ??m sure a few other people are two.