Quote Originally Posted by harris7
I think a lot of people here would be surprised to know that "free will" and humans having it is under strong philosophical debate. and has been for like hundreds of years.

That's been debated everywhere, true. Including within the scope of religion.

I actually dont believe humans have free will. I am what they call a compatiblist.

Noumenal God?

---United i remember now that you do believe in evolution. even though i wasn't directing the statements specifically at you. And you are correct, evolution dosn't conflict with creationism. It all comes back, you have very different beliefs than most and i realize that most of what i say probably dosn't effect you; as it is all directed at the more fundamentalist side of Christianity

Do you have arguments against the believers who aren't fundamentalist? Who have a progressive view about history and politics and therefore look to the good book for guidance on spiritual matters rather than to decide what do vote for.
all bold my own.
Polymirize Reviewed by Polymirize on . If God is real, why are there atheists? The biggest problem with the God hypothesis, so far as I can tell, is accounting for the fact that there is absolutely no concrete evidence for God anywhere. My question is: what kind of God would set things up that way? Why would God create a universe in which it is possible to be an atheist, if he wants us to believe in him? There are a four ways of explaining this that I can think of: (1) There is a God, but he doesn't want anybody to believe in him. (2) There is a God, but he doesn't Rating: 5