Quote Originally Posted by UnitedWeFall
There is some evidence, but people just chose to ignore it. The Bible is meant to be evidence, but people lack faith and say it is not because it is "just a book, why should I believe what it says?". Millions of Christian people with masses of faith who are living the way of Christ are meant to be evidence, but when they try to teach people their ways, they're just said to be annoying preachers.

In this world, no one is going to believe in God unless he comes to down to Earth, picks up a mountain and yells "I AM GOD, NOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN ME?". Face it - mere evidence is not enough. Atheists will continue to find excuses to why God doesn't exist, when all it takes is a little faith. It isn't about material evidence. It's about living a positive life. "Do unto others."
You seem to think that atheists want god to not exist. This isn’t true, I would love it if god existed. And most atheists start out as believers, so why would we start making excuses that contradict support for out belief?

Lets talk about evidence, I’m going to put this out there to see what ya’ll think
I think there are two kinds of evidence to which we speak of.

The first would be proof evidence (god shows himself)- something that pretty much proves without a doubt that god exists.
-I hope we all agree that this kind of evidence for god does not exist.

The second would be supporting evidence—this is essentially new data which fits in with the existing theory. So if the theory is God something that supports this theory would be, in some peoples eyes, the complexity of life.
-this is a bad example, but I hope you get the gist
-the bible is very poor supporting evidence. there is little reason not to
consider it fiction

I agree with you United, there is some supporting evidence that god exists. (I cant think of any, but am giving you the benefit of the doubt)

The problem for me is the gap between what the evidence warrants and the conclusion some people draw. (please tell me of this evidence I like to ignore?)

You make the opposite argument, that the evidence is so strong atheists must ignore lots of it, not to be convinced by it. This is ridiculous!!!


I think a lot of atheists see it this way: the theory of god does not have enough support for anyone to commit to it. The gap between the evidence and the conclusion is too large.

this gap I speak of is what faith and desire fill
harris7 Reviewed by harris7 on . If God is real, why are there atheists? The biggest problem with the God hypothesis, so far as I can tell, is accounting for the fact that there is absolutely no concrete evidence for God anywhere. My question is: what kind of God would set things up that way? Why would God create a universe in which it is possible to be an atheist, if he wants us to believe in him? There are a four ways of explaining this that I can think of: (1) There is a God, but he doesn't want anybody to believe in him. (2) There is a God, but he doesn't Rating: 5