hahha, i have a stack of these mostly empty sitting in my closet. they work quite well for taking macros! im still smokin on this stuff. just a bowl or 2 a night by myself or with a couple friends and im high for 3-4 hours atleast. im stoned after the 2nd pipe hit.and after 6-7 hits im ripped.it doesnt make me spaced out but it sure makes me take a long time to get all the words out. peace!