Quote Originally Posted by lagstronaut
ahahah nice

but okay back to our little discussion..

what i'm trying to say is that in my opinion I think that nuclear/germ weapons will have evolved enough by now (or soon) that the next world war will be the last this earth will see, due to so many nations having access to these devastating powers with (from what I see) most of their leaders being stupid enough to all use them against the enemy when the time deems fit.
perhaps the next world war will be the last physical war. we like to think of war as men in the shit, with rifles slung over their shoulders, because traditionally, this is the way wars are fought. but just like everything else, especially the media, circumstances change and things evolve. technically, we could fight a war without sending any soldiers overseas. could a future war be virtual instead of physical? shutting down internet access across a nation, would seriously cripple their communications. but the world will not end. it will not blow up and not everyone will die. there will be survivors.

Quote Originally Posted by lagstronaut
what i understand from your argument is that you think (or pretty much guarantee ) that either before the next global-scaled war or after the next one we will focus all of our attention on becoming friends with each of the other nations and for some reason accept (or at least tolerate) each other's religions and the world will live in harmony trying to purify the water again
oh no, not friends. a truce. if you can imagine a world war, that involve regular nuclear attacks on major cities, on every continent, then you will begin to see the devastating effects it has on the land, the crops, the water. we may have the technology to attack other countries thousands of kilometres away, but they have that ability too. so in actuality, the war is no longer on 'the enemies' home turf, the war is wherever you live. so even the innocent civilians cop the full brunt of the attacks. it may seem like i'm stating the obvious here, but most people (not neccssarily you) just don't understand how much war can fuck everything in your life up. it's this mass loss of life that eventually wears down the "fighting" spirit, that consumes most leaders. it's like a game of tennis, that just seems to go on too long. the players will tire. just hittin that hydrogen bomb back and forth, the bounce of a ball equals the destruction of a city. bang. bang. bang. bang. deuce.

What do you think the people of canada would do if they were continually being bombed by nuclear weapons? what do you think the people of the world would do if they were continually being bombed by nuclear weapons? they'd be fairly pissed off wouldn't they? because no matter what the media feeds us. Actions speak louder than words. and if our leaders, who are supposed to protect us, and keep the peace, are provoking attacks from other nations, then that government should and will be disbanded.

Have you ever gotten into a heated argument with someone and then 10 minutes later mid yell, you completely forgot what you were arguing about? and then you just think "oh whatever, i got better things to do...". i believe the same thing will happen, but in this world war scenario, the more important thing you have to do is keep yourself alive and your family safe and fed. survival is hardwired into everything.

How can we rebuild our own society, let alone try and westernise another, when we don't have clean water to drink? last time i checked H2O is one of the most essential things to sustain life. nuclear fallout will affect our bodies too. slowly killing us, preventing most people from conceiving. when that happens, most people will just want to stop fighting because, if they started fighting to preserve their 'way of life' and this is where their lives have ended up, then what were they truly fighting for? a question that alot of people are asking the american government. religious wars become trivial, although strength in unity and strength in community, will become much more prominent.


Quote Originally Posted by lagstronaut
did i get what you're saying right? :jointsmile:
not quite, but you got the gist of it, although you are still a grasshopper. it's the mentality and understanding of it that will make you think... shit, nuclear war is truly devastating. but we'll get through it. planet earth will get through it.