Question for Bible believing Christians

[hazetwostep]

master...

no need to throw in irrelevant and degredating remarks towards other people's beliefs.. let's stay on topic

[Captain Hanks]

I can understand if the law was asking you to do something unbiblical... but if it is asking you to refrain from an unnecessary behavior??? I see a big difference...

if you suddenly start saying there is room for exception due to personal opinion doesn't that open a pretty big door? there are people who can casually use harder drugs like coke and all... would that be alright for them? i have a friend who will do coke like a few times a year...

also, the reason i specified "bible believing" is because that intails people who would go by the commandments the bible states... not just made up exceptions that they see fit (i dont mean that rudely or saying you are wrong for doing it, just different then the mainstream definition of "bible believing"). from that perspective one would need to soundly defend a stance through scripture and not personal opinion... as we can change anything by personal opinion. ya know? there would need to be some scripture stating that if you disagree with a law you could disobey. but i probs won't bump into many peeps like that on here!!! pepople with this habit don't tend to be too publicly mainstream in church!

There is a big difference between opinion and unnecessary behavior. Smoking cannabis isn't just a choice but Gods wish for all Christians. The word Christian itself means stoner. Proof needed?:rasta:

[MastaChronic]

master...

no need to throw in irrelevant and degredating remarks towards other people's beliefs.. let's stay on topic

i am staying on topic, it is, in fact, not a necessary behavior.
breathing is a necessary behavior, whicc brings up another question, if breathing was illegal, would you still do it? it would be illegal and going against you bible because your bible tells you to obey the laws of your land

[hazetwostep]

people keep giving examples of when it is okay to ignore a law... they keep giving examples where the governemnt is asking people to commit a sin...

THIS IS DIFFERENT as the US government is not asking you to commit any sin. asking you to refrain from smoking is not asking you to commit an immoral act or an act that disagrees with the bible. the government saying to kill the innocent like herod commanded, would fall under that. asking you to worship a false idol would fall under that like Sharach, Meshach, and Abednego, and telling you not to pray to God like Daniel was told would fall under that.

breathing air is a necessity of life and cannot be taken. smoking is not so once again it would not relate to that exception!

asking you to abstain from smoking marijuana does not fall under a category of being asked to commit a sinful act by the government.

do you see the vast difference? if the governement asked you to refrain from smoking and the bible commanded you to smoke, that would apply there. as smoking is not a commandment, that exception to the rule does not apply.

[MastaChronic]

if YOU have such a problem with smoking weed then dont do it. i personally think that the bible is a load of bullshit. i live my life guided by the morals that i believe in, not what some bullshit book tells me is right and wrong

[VOYAGER]

How bout this, Who created the law, and why, and who said they were right?
If there is no major point for the law then are we letting people run our country that really shouldn't be. The stories in the bible usually tell of Gods people doing right, but the land that they reside in is usually run by someone that doesn't believe in those ways. So there is this non stop feud between good and evil, right and wrong, unnessesary laws, etc.. etc..
Do you need a law there to tell you that you are about to do something wrong. Something to just give you a line to cross. God said no man shall take the life of another man, yet who killed His son, because the law of that land thought they were doing something right. Then that would mean God created a law to tell man to obey man made laws, and in turn killed his own son because the men who did such were just following the law.

[Oneironaut]

if YOU have such a problem with smoking weed then dont do it. i personally think that the bible is a load of bullshit. i live my life guided by the morals that i believe in, not what some bullshit book tells me is right and wrong

Seriously.

He's right about the Bible being very clear on authority. The Bible is certainly no anarchist's manifesto. This is from the Sermon on the Mount:

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

So, according to Jesus, even if the government is compelling you to do something you don't want to do (or compelling you not to do something you want to do), you should comply. Even if you believe the government is acting unjust, and consider the law to be your enemy, you must obey it, for you are to love your enemies and do whatever is asked of you by anybody ever.

Fortunately for us, Jesus was an idiot and most of us know nowadays that it's okay to break unjust laws. If people based their interactions with authority on what the Bible has to say, slavery would still be in practice.

[hazetwostep]

wow oneironaut... go out to the front of this section and read where it says to be respectful!!! thanks buddy... you like 12 or something? think it is cool to bash other people's beliefs??? cool

[hazetwostep]

masterchronic... this question is from the perspective of bible believing people... simple... and i dont have a problem with smoking... i was asking a question that i was curious about...

everyone else..
the thing is nobody is answering from the angle i am asking. i am asking for reasoning of a "bible beliving/following" person in the mainstream sense of the term... this means that one's personal feeling that ignoring a silly law is reason enough for it to be fine, is not enough. i personally agree with that thinking, but the question is asking for answer from a "bible belieiving" (one who believes the bible is god's innerant word to guide our live's during this lifetime)... to justify smoking would require biblical backing that negated or over ruled the issue of it being illegal and therefore rebellious to do. if you are a "bible believing christian" in the mainstream sense of the term you can answer from that angle and please do... otherwise nevermind about this thread

[Oneironaut]

You just lost a lot of my respect buddy. No need for those kind of comments.

Hey, the Bible started it. It called me a fool for saying in my heart that there is no God.

But seriously, Jesus was a complete idiot for saying what he did in the Sermon on the Mount. Saying to people that they should do whatever is asked of them by anybody, do whatever anybody compels them to do, and to give to anybody what they ask for, is idiotic. If we had that kind of mentality, just imagine how powerful the Nazis would be right now. "Oh, you want Poland Hitler? Fine, take it. What's that? You want me to kill the Jews. Sure, if you say so."