Hi there,

You two really surprise me, but totally respect your views. On all the other smoking forums we have had all for us, and they donate lots of money to our judicial review, come on potheads, please help us stay smoking in the pubs and clubs.

http://freedom2choose.co.uk/

But if you go you our site you will see we are pushing for separate smoking rooms and good ventilation, then the air will be very clean. But this is also about freedom of choose, they will not stop here, some places in the USA, they don??t allow you to smoke in parks, and this is about stopping the UK nanny state, they are trying to control us slowly, after the smoking, they are then going to focus on diet and health and drink.

They are spending and wasting 50million or more on this so called smoking ban, and that money should be used to save real lives, to buy new machines for hospitals, or it should be used to help the starving of this World, or be given to me to by more blow hehehe.

But there is a problem with the clean air issue, perfume, and as just about everyone drives a car, and every time you start it you contaminate the air big time, one hour drive in just one car put more pollutants in the air, than all the passive smoking has ever done,

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/die...ng_cancer.html

MSP Patrick Harvie said spending 24 hours in Glasgow city centre was the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes. Oxford city centre has the worst air pollution in the country, according to a survey which compares inhaling the air there to smoking 61 cigarettes a day, so passive smoking is one big needle in one big haystack. So with all the toxins in the air, is a ban in bar and clubs, really worth all the time and money, as your breathing in toxins all day, the only difference with cigarettes, is you can ??see? the smoke, when good ventilation could be far more useful. When good ventilation could be far more useful, and it can get rid of all the toxins in the air, I can prove evidence and links.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4401628.stm

http://archive.thisisoxfordshire.co....8/27/9214.html

David Attenborough program, the average family of four, with cars and homes produces ??40 TONES?; have to repeat that ??40 TONES? of toxic fumes each year from the petrol, diesel, electricity, gas and so forth, diesel fumes contain four known carcinogens.

As the Government keeps bring up numbers that stat anywhere from 600 to 6000 people die each year from passive smoking, BUT NO ONE DOES DIE, OR GET HARMED, IT'S A COVER UP OF ALL THE TOXIC FUMES IN THE AIR, as no one can name one person, no not "ONE", not the Government themselves no the UK statistics can not name one person, the BMJ can not name one person, no can the Office of Tobacco Control.

The names and address of these people, and the hospitals they went to treat them, as all hospitals keep records, and would have logged down how and what effects the second hand smoke did to these people, and also please name confirmed people that have been harmed because of second hand smoke, and the names and address of these people, and the hospitals they went to treat them, as all hospitals keep records, and would have logged down how and what effects the second hand smoke did to these people.

So why is all this money being wasted ??? When these millions could be used to save real lives, I am totally dumbfounded by the whole issue, as with all the pollutants in the every day air we all breath in, breathing in a little bit of passive smoke is so dame trivial, if your going to worry about passive smoke after breathing in all the pollutant and toxics in the air, it is like compeering passive smoke one very small needle and the air outside one very big haystack.

What if I tried to convince you of an illness, but could not produce one casualty, bet you would look at me as if I was dumb, that is what I/we look at you.

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