Taking the government to court over the smoking ban please help

[meds02093]

There will be more risks of beers getting spiked as here in Wales you are not allowed to take the glass out with you.. there was a story recently in a pub here by me that a man went out to smoke then went back in, drank his beer, went out and fell on the floor.. police came to arrest him until later they found he was having a fit and was not drunk. He is now in intensive care.

[PsychoticEpisode]

I'm a smoker, and I totally support the ban on public smoking. There's no argument and any attempt to fight against it using human rights legislation is doomed to be an expensive failure.

The whole argument put by the OP sounds like a feeble attempt by the tobacco and alcohol industries to protect their income. The fact that the registrant of the "freedom to choose" web site has chosen to hide their identity does little to dispel this suspicion.

[Divadish]

I think people are missing the point , the argument is not about the right to smoke in public but for designated premises to be established where like minded people can go and enjoy a cigarette/cigar/pipe and who knows maybe one day a spliff in peace and comfort ( a private smokers club if you like ). Now think about it .. is that really such a bad thing .. ?

[PsychoticEpisode]

I think people are missing the point , the argument is not about the right to smoke in public but for designated premises to be established where like minded people can go and enjoy a cigarette/cigar/pipe and who knows maybe one day a spliff in peace and comfort ( a private smokers club if you like ). Now think about it .. is that really such a bad thing .. ?

I've just checked, and the OP was specifically talking about smoking in public bars. The legislation being passed won't stop people from smoking in private houses.

Having somewhere to go to have a spliff in town wouldn't be such a bad thing, but cannabis prohibitionists seem to have the media and the politicans on their side in the UK, the press (with the exception of the Guardian) are all calling for cannabis to be re-classified as a class B. There's every chance that cannabis prohibition will be stepped up and little to no chance of legalisation in the forseable future.

[Divadish]

Of course you will be able to smoke in private houses , the day this government starts to try and dictate what we do behind our own front doors is the day i sell up and ship out . In the next 20/30/40 years when literally 10's of millions of people are facing starvation , are on the move as refugees due to flooding , and civil unrest has broken out in ( supposedly ) democratic countries due to food and energy shortages our kids and grand kids will look back and think why weren't our parents / grandparents doing anything about it, sorry we were too busy dealing with second hand smoke . Honestly if people were as passionate about the environment as they were about banning smoking we could take some serious steps towards securing some sort of future for forthcoming generations , instead we will be seen as a laughing stock for those left picking up the pieces ( not that there will be much to laugh about by then ) . This is my last post on this subject as the words head and brick wall are starting to spring to mind ( no offence ).

[PsychoticEpisode]

the day this government starts to try and dictate what we do behind our own front doors is the day i sell up and ship out .

As far as I know, they do tell us that we can't smoke cannabis behind our front doors. Unless they've changed the law and not told me. Bon voyage..........

[Divadish]

So you are a Daily Mail reader ah ah enough said

[ukmonkey]

This is bullshit. I'm a smoker and no I'm not looking forward to the ban but it has to be a good thing.

[Nepalese black]

Now that tobacco is effectively illegal in public places (except when there is clear sky above you i.e. no roof ) does anyone in their right mind think that the government is actually going to overturn an existing law and legalise weed .... not a fu"*in chance . We needed tobacco out in the open to use as a yardstick to point out the relative harmlessness of MJ in comparison to tobacco.I also think that some of you are missing the point ,no one is actually bigging up cigs it,s the freedom of choice that,s being fought for,anyway i could go on for ages about the civil liberty issues but i'll be going over things i've posted before.One last point,my grandfather survived the D-day landings and since my grandmother died does not have much of a life apart from going to his local working mens club 3 times a week for a few pints and cigs, as of July 1st this will no longer be possible due to the ban and to think this gentleman put his life on the line in the name of democracy.

Hi Davadish,

Glad there are some here that understand, as next they will â??tryâ?� and I mean try, try and make it illegal to smoke 10 meters from any pub or public place, try and stop you smoking, fags or blow in parks, beaches or nearly anywhere that the public go, so us potheads need to stick together over this, thatâ??s why this Government has to be stopped, as no one can dictate to me how to live my life, damn fing check.

I know we canâ??t do what I am about to say but feel like saying it anyway;

Lets Just ask the Judge in the JR, all we ask for is separate smoking rooms, with ventilation and filtration, in pubs and clubs, where we can smoke in piece, is this to much to ask for, for Gods sake, how can any MP and Lord be so damn selfish, spiteful, biased, childlike, non-logical, and un-professional and break their own code of practise, no wonder they get attack by terrorists, as they do not think right, the MPâ??s seem to make all the wrong decisions, why ??? And why are they there, are they real people or computer programs, programmed to be against the right decisions and against the people, there should be a full revolution to remove 80% of them.

And ask each and every Lord that voted against the smoking rooms why they voted against, love to have them all at the JR, and ask them that without any warning, I wonder what they would say, as they would be put on the spot.

Then state one of to other things, like all the Countries with blanket bans have higher smoking rates because of this, but Spain with a ban but not in the pubs has a lower rate of smokers.

Our main studies proving passive smoking is just about harmless.

Ventilation works.

More smoking in the homes, where the alleged passive smoking hits the children.

Pubs will stay open.

Hospitals should be receiving the 50Million that they have spent on this ban, for the people that are waiting for live threatening operations.

All I want is a happy and quite life, I did not want is this, but now I have wasted one year on my computer finding out all about the huge ridiculous conspiracy against the smokers, and am not amused, I love life love to use my computer for other things, but hardily have the time for these things now, and have put up money for the JR, when all we ask is a damned smoking room.

For Gods sake if there are any antis, anti smokers of anything, or any MPâ??s or Lords here reading this grow up as you antis are very odd fanatical people that need help, please you are totally wasting your life doing all this, please go away and forget all about this, and ask for a little help, as you pollute the air a Billion Billion Billion more times than I will in my whole life with my passive smoking, in lets say 4 hours travelling in your car, find a life, you have totally brainwashed yourself, you need some time away, perhaps a holiday, they say Pluto is nice this time of year, it take 9 1/2 years to get to Pluto in a spaceship, however for you people I suggest a airliner to Pluto, the trip would take no more than 800 years, and I have a funny feeling I would have kicked the habit by then, hehehe. Then we could all live happily after.[/quote]

Wayne

[Nepalese black]

As far as I know, they do tell us that we can't smoke cannabis behind our front doors. Unless they've changed the law and not told me. Bon voyage..........

Yes they have changed the Cannabis Laws, it was about three years ago.

Home Office | Cannabis reclassification

I know someone very well that was in the Drug Squad up in London, ad basically if your sitting down in public smoking blow and bothering no-one they will let you carry on, same if there are a load of you in the house smoking blow, basically they will turn a blind eye, as they donâ??t want to do the paper work, however it all depends on the way you look and dress.

Wayne