Taking the government to court over the smoking ban please help

[HAPPYBUDDER]

Hi there all,

Not sure if I can do this, but we are all smokers and it is for a good reason, please moderators, please check our site out, we are really doing what I say but need help.

If some of you like me love a blow, then stroll down to your local bar for a few beers and cigarettes, next year the government are trying to stop us. We have worked out that not one person has died from passive smoke and no one has been harmed, and the smoking rates are up in Ireland and Scotland since the bars, if you want hard evidence of this please ask.

We have so much evidence, like smoking rates are down but cancer is on the rise, is all the diesel in the air and other pollutants, but the numbers of smokers have gone up in Ireland and Scotland since the bans came in.


http://freedom2choose.co.uk/news_scotland.php

Our new site is up and running, please please please could you donate, it would make our day, a £1 £10 £100, or even a £1000000 pounds, I hate asking for donations, not sure if I can on this site, sorry if I can't, but it is for a great thing, it's for the Judicial review to stop the UK Government from implementing the smoking ban in pubs and clubs, come on all lets put one over on the Government, lets show them ass's up, we actually had an amendment put in the house of Lords, it was for smoking rooms in pubs and good ventilation, 70 Lords voted for, but 215 against, when we win we will then help every country.

Here is a little bit from,

http://www.smokersclubinc.com/module...ticle&sid=3374

Speaking exclusively to the MA, their leader and spokesperson Robert Feal-Martinez said,
"We had a full consultation meeting last week with Swindler Gill of Omero's. "Mr Gill is a Judaical Review specialist and has indicated that we have a number of key areas on which to challenge the Government.
"We have devised an action plan and are currently collating the evidence ready to refer to our Barrister"

He went onto say that Mr. Gill has consulted with Richard Gordon QC a top civil rights Barrister who is keen to take on the case.
The man for us Martinez said: "Obviously we are delighted with this news, we identified Mr. Gordon early on as the man for us, and hopefully this will be the case."

Freedom to Choose now needs to raise the money for the case and would ask that any group, company or individual who can financially assist gets in touch.

Martinez said,"We have been writing to individual members of various trade bodies as we feel the executives of the main organizations have let their members down. We are getting more and more support."

He concluded by requesting that trade leaders now get involved, "Surely it's better for Pub's and brewers to donate a few thousand to our fight rather than spending millions which in the end we believe will not be necessary. Our legal team are confident we can win. So are we."

Nepalese black

you say no one has been harmed from passive smoking my second cousin died from lung cancer she didnt smoke but all her friends did, in a postmortem they found her lungs were as black and full of tar as any normal smoker and said she most likely got lung cancer from passive smoking and you want to fight for your right to do this to other people?

HAPPYBUDDER Reviewed by HAPPYBUDDER on 01-04-2007. Taking the government to court over the smoking ban please help Hi there all, Not sure if I can do this, but we are all smokers and it is for a good reason, please moderators, please check our site out, we are really doing what I say but need help. If some of you like me love a blow, then stroll down to your local bar for a few beers and cigarettes, next year the government are trying to stop us. We have worked out that not one person has died from passive smoke and no one has been harmed, and the smoking rates are up in Ireland and Scotland since the Rating: 5

[B.Basher]

Makes perfect sense to me to ban cigarettes around food and drink. I don't smoke but my girlfriend does and I hate that shit. It's not a case of taking away the rights of others, it's simply reaching for more healthy public houses and places to socialise. Smoking is a shitty, pointless, negative habit and every little helps. You can still smoke, just get the fuck away from me and my sandwich.

Just my opinion though man . It's good to speak out.

[mc-blaze21]

sorry guys but i think i agree with the smoking ban why should we put our smoke on other people that dont smoke. like basher said when im eating i dont want to be seeing and smelling some on else smoking next to me ya get me its just disgusting. and i smoke as well and this is how i feel so how do the poor fuckers that dont smoke feel. yeah my point exactly. oh and nepolise black please dont stereo type me i aint no pot head ok yeah i smoke weed but it dont make me a pot head so dont stereo type me ok im very supprised no one else picked up on that but hey its just probably me. any way thats my 2 pence worth peace!

[Matt the Funk]

I think in the US, if you ask a smoker to stop smoking near you, he legally has to stop.I think that would be enough, if it was enforced.

[Divadish]

I also agree with the smoking ban. The rights of non smokers to cleaner air far outweighs my right to force the breathe in my smoke and making their clothes smell.

If it was up to me the smoking ban would go even further than it does now.

And yes I smoke.

You're missing the point this is'nt about smoking persay but about freedom of
choice and the slow but steady erosion of our civil liberties in what we
laughingly call a democracy. Let me make a point, a week or so ago i was passing a local school at about 3.15 and outside the school lined up for over 100
yards were parents waiting in their vehicles (quite a few 4x4s) all but a few with
engines running creating a cloud of CARBON MONOXIDE you could barely see through, did i go over and bluntly tell them to switch off their engines ,no i crossed the road (still breathing in fumes by the way)and made my way.
Where were my rights to clean air that day.I have driven before but no longer
have a car(by choice) although public transport does suck.

[amberler]

You're missing the point this is'nt about smoking persay but about freedom of
choice and the slow but steady erosion of our civil liberties in what we
laughingly call a democracy. Let me make a point, a week or so ago i was passing a local school at about 3.15 and outside the school lined up for over 100
yards were parents waiting in their vehicles (quite a few 4x4s) all but a few with
engines running creating a cloud of CARBON MONOXIDE you could barely see through, did i go over and bluntly tell them to switch off their engines ,no i crossed the road (still breathing in fumes by the way)and made my way.
Where were my rights to clean air that day.I have driven before but no longer
have a car(by choice) although public transport does suck.

Smoking and fumes from vehicles are two separate arguments though.

The smoking ban covers indoor or enclosed spaces somewhere fumes from vehicles don't tend to affect.

I agree though it is about freedom of choice but in this case, the two freedoms clash with each other. Not smoking doesn't harm anyone, unless you factor temper loss into it :P.

[fasterspider]

Cigarettes should be banned period.
I smoked for 31 years and regret every one of those cigarettes. I was foolishly hooked on nicotene but, no more. Watching people smoke makes me sick to my stomach because they either do not know they are addicted or they know but are too much of a pussy to quit.
No good comes from cigarette smoking, none.

[mad_nat]

as a smoker trying to qive up (yes i hate the fact that i started) but i dont agree with this ban. if you have a problem with smoking then dont sit next to a person that smokes simple as. but this aint gonna work i just reckon pubs and clubs are just gonna get more dangerous (imagane if someone leaves their drink to go for a fag). plus hows this gonna help decrease smokers if anything it will make you want to start more its like i said before if you tell someone not to do it or make it harder for someone to do they'll do it more and plus if you with a group of gang and your the only one that dont smoke your gonna hate being on your bill most of the time.

another thing i dont get how this will work at clubs for one some clubs take ages to get in to what u gonna do when you need a fag just go outside despite the fact you waited hours to get in in the first place and secondly any clubs themselves are fussy about letting you back in.

[MrDank]

I respect you for what each person thinks of this, but itâ??s more than just about the smoking ban, itâ??s about freedom of choose, the Government is trying to rule us, next you will have to smoke 10 yards from the pub, and not be allowed to smoke in parks, this is all ready happening in some stats in America, we need to stop it now, next it will be drink, then they will un-relax the cannabis laws again, please see the fill below last link, this country is turning into a communist country, with id cards on the way, cameras every where.

i am NOT a cigarette smoker although i smoked cigarettes for 12 years.
i love the fact that i live in a state where people are NOT allowed to smoke indoors.
i CANNOT breathe around cigarette smoke when i go somewhere where cigarette smoke is predominant in the air i dont bitch about it but i do get sick, my clothes smell, etc...
cigarettes are disgusting and just an addiction.
i bet anyone who has smoked a pack a day for more than 5 years are only smoking because they CANT NOT smoke this is because cigarettes have very strong addictive properties even stronger than most drugs. the reason you dont want the smoking ban lifted is because you are an addicted cigarette smoker. how about this.
try to quit smoking cigarettes and enjoy the ban and the fresh air.

[Divadish]

Wake up call cigarrettes cigarrettes arent killin the planet transport IS