Theres a kind of HB woodrose seeds that you can get from iamshaman.com They're actually the second cheapest kind I believe. Anyway, if you take about 15, thats a nice dose for a 250 lb big guy like myself. And I get NO nausea from them, and I think its because they dont have a fuzzy outer shell. I took em with a fuzzy outer shell before and vomit vomit vomit. Of course I did get those from a garden center so its possible they were treated with pesticides.