MY STORY (diluted test)

[Burnt Toast]

I dont know, before i would have agreed 100%. But i tried one of those 7 day cleansers after about 3 years of avg. daily smoking, and i was clean after 25 days abstained. Im 210 and 5'8 so, thick but not a fat ass. I spent over $100 and i am convinced it works.

So-called "7 day cleansers" and all other detox drinks work on the principle of dilution - because water is consumed with the product as instructed by the maker. As I stated before, all youre doing is merely diluting your THC concentration so the sample registers below the test cutoff limit. About the only effect those drinks have is providing color. Those overpriced magic drinks DO NOT remove or dissolve THC metabolites, as the makers lead you to believe. Its the water and vitamin content of the magic drink that does the whole trick. You could duplicate the same actions and save a ton of money by following the Dilution Guidelines posted on this forum

It makes you excrete burning hot fesces, and we should know that more thc metabolites are actually expelled in solid waste rather than urine.

And you should know that even when THC is being excreted via the stool, that will still not stop the kidneys from filtering THCA from the bloodstream and depositing into the bladder for the eventual exit.

[FakeBoobsRule]

It makes you excrete burning hot fesces, and we should know that more thc metabolites are actually expelled in solid waste rather than urine.

You would have gotten the same effect for much cheaper with a bottle of Metamucil. Although I am not sure what the split is between urine elimination and fecal elimination, there is some research that shows soluble fiber can help a little with helping your body eliminate THC. This is done in two ways, binding to bile that often contains THC and helping to bind to the THC in feces and moving it out more quickly so that the THC cannot be reabsorbed by the body. Like I said though, you could save money with a bottle of Metamucil. Some of those detox drinks contain fiber or vegetable laxatives or both. Metamucil has soluble fiber which is quite effective in bind to bile and is also a gentle laxative so that you don't get FHS unless you are really backed up.

I once had a thread about soluble fiber and THC elimination and it was deleted because someone started flaming in it. I will have to re write it to give more specific details as to the role of soluble fiber and THC elimination.

Aerobic exercise is still the most effective method of helping your body eliminate THC metabolites faster but fiber can help a little.

[FakeBoobsRule]

FBR, Though what you say is quite true.

The tea I'm drinking have 72mg of antioxidants per240mL.

Chris, thanks for engaing in a mature discussion. So many people want to just say "well this works so screw you" or "I know this guy that did this and passed so it worked so screw you" or something to that effect but you seem willing to discuss this somewhat. Which Lipton tea is it exactly? Antioxidants are great for your body but I have never seen solid scientific studies showing that they help with THC elimination. The FDA really has strict guidelines when it comes to prescription and OTC drugs but are very lax on herbal supplements and their claims. I am wondering if Litpon tea has some trace amounts of antioxidant vitamins such as Vitamins E and C and then they can just slap that on their label. Doesit actually say what the antioxidants are?

Thanks

[dejayou30]

If you read the dilution sticky you will see why you are getting dilute samples. You are making several mistakes.

there is no dilution sticky....?

[FakeBoobsRule]

Sorry dejay

I thought it was but it is a normal thread and was buried about 3 pages back. I bumped it and I will try to get a mod to make it a sticky. Here is a link too,

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...84#post1154084

Merry Christmas

[chriscannabis]

Honestly FBR, I have no idea. I will look it up over the weekend and give you a good report on it.

Apparently from what I cna gather, they just kinda clean your system.

Sort of like internal soap. It seems to work decently though, I came up clean on my test, and my piss wasn't clear, it was yellow tinged. Uusually diluted piss is just clear water right?

[chriscannabis]

The metabolite concentration is lowered because the tea, being a liquid, is serving as a diluting agent to the concentration thats present in the bodys excretory system. The tea has no effect in removing THC metabolites from fat cells. There is NO product of any kind that removes THC from body fat. Only physical activity can do that. Time is also a major player, but bear in mind that the time factor is influenced by the degree of physical activity.

Drinking liquids of any sort days before the test does nothing. THC is stored away in your fat cells and slowly released into the bloodsteam, to make an eventual exit from the body via the excretory system. You are not pushing anything out when you ingest liquids days prior to your test, other than the first few voids when you eliminate most of the metabolites that have built up in the excretory system.
To put it more simply, when you are drinking fluids, you are aiming to get the mass of THC metabolites present in a given volume of urine under the cutoff level of the test you are taking. When you drink a large amount of fluids, your body is still releasing THC metabolites at a constant rate.

Now time for an analogy:
You are mixing Kool-Aid, and instead of using 2 quarts of water you use 20. Now go and measure the mass of Kool-Aid particles per glass of Kool-Aid (how watered down does it taste?). You can probably barely taste the Kool-Aid.

Kool-Aid mix = the THC metabolites
your taste buds = the EMIT screening reagent (drug test)

You cant taste it, you might as well say its not Kool-Aid.

The EMIT screening reagent doesnt react to its calibrated cutoff level, it simply says the sample contains no THC.

Same principle with your body and drug tests.

wow man, great way to put it.

You're most likely right, but I want to see if the 72mg of antioxidants per 240ml of Lipton Citrus Green Tea, actually does anything rather than just ruin my koolaid so to speak.

I'm gunna try and run some tests and see if I can't reveal anything.


I'm not much of a science whiz(I'm working on it)

I haven't read this yet, so someone who knows circulatory and digestive systems extensively, tell me if thsi article is useful to my aims or not.

Much appreciated and Merry Christmas.

[chriscannabis]

My stoned ass forgot the post the link.

Two hours later

Here ya go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant

[BigNugs4U]

hey chriscann...

was it a premanent cleanser? if so, did u also have the burning hot waste problem?

[chriscannabis]

Burning hot waste? That sounds painful, and my bathroom trips have been pretty much routine and painless while drinking them.

They aren't even really cleansers. I think the antioxidants just have a convenient side effect of helping to clean your system.