Who openly acknowledges the pitfalls of MJ?

[Frivolous248]

BTW, the caffeine/MJ thread made me start this one. Personally, I think whoever thinks that caffeine is somehow more harmful than MJ needs to pass the blunt and analyze that a little more carefully.

FACTS:

Caffeine IS physically addictive.

You CAN overdose on caffeine (theres enough caffeine in a single box of "NoDoz" so don't think its hard to achieve)

Caffeine, honestly, is a poor mans meth.

Seriously, you need to research a little more before making these claims. I don't think it makes people slower. It doesn't kill brain cells thats for sure. Maybe your drinking is catching up with you, alcohol does damage the brain and your brain does not always recover from that damage.

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuan...mythology.html

[Captain Hanks]

It seems like alot of people on this board jump on the 'because pot should be legal, it is harmless' bandwagon.

Who here actually acknowledges and accepts the pitfalls of MJ?
I smoked a little bit in high school, never bought. If someone offered me a puff on a joint, i would not turn it down. Never really was impressed with MJ, I am more of a drinker. Much alcohol has passed through this body. I don't get into trouble much. I haven't been arrested or anything like that, but I have had alot of run ins with law enforcement where i really could have been in a bad position but I always seemed to get out of it unscathed whether it is speeding or DUI/DWI or illegal immigrant smuggling. (fun stories)

Two years ago i started smoking regularly, everyday. Though I am not a loooong time smoker, I do consider myself a hardcore smoker. As long as my eyes are open, i will never turn it down. Before I started smoking, I did alot of public speaking. I have spoken in front of 3k people before and done very well, enough for numerous compliments. The summer before I started smoking, I got a great job where i sold 60k dollars worth of books for a publishing company. Awesome for a 20 year old college student. I bought a new car and paid for 2 full load semesters of college for 15 weeks of work. Now that I smoke, I get into much less trouble. I haven't had to talk to a single police officer in two years now. My affairs are in order, I get up on time without a hangover. I am in my 3rd year of college and plan on graduating in the next 2 years from one of the best business schools in the country.

Smoking is now a part of my personality. It fits me well and it lets me enjoy life a little bit more. However, I cannot speak like I used to. I cannot write like I used to. Now that I think back, I realize how sharp i was mentally and how dull I am now. I don't need to speak anywhere or sell anything, so it doesn't really matter. I have met enough stoners to be able to tell that MJ screws with the brain a good bit.

In my defense, at least I waited until I got into college to smoke pot. Lots of kids start smoking at 15....and end up nowhere. I am an optimist and a realist. If i would have smoked like i do now back when i was 15, i can almost guarantee that I wouldn't be where I am today.

Do any of yall feel any negative effects of MJ? I do acknowledge the negative affects of marijuana, and I choose to live with them. I do not see myself stopping anytime soon.

Discuss.

How dare you acuse it on the mj. It's obviously the alcohol causing negative effects, how can you be so blind. Caffiene has over 800 chemicals in it (most of them synthetic) while thc only has 400 (all natural). Caffiene is addictive, and while cannabis can be mentally addicting, physically there are no withdrawl symptoms. You can overdose on caffiene, nobody in the 3,000 years of recorded use has od'd on cannabis. Caffiene cause cancer and heart problems for thousands every year, cannabis has yet to be proven to give anyone cancer.:rasta:

[Captain Hanks]

My favorite is people who claim that it's "harmless" on the lungs simply because it doesn't cause lung cancer. Apparently cancer is the only type of harm that can be inflicted on your lungs

Of course it's not harmless on the lungs. It's burnt plant matter is irritating on them. It will make you cough and wheez and hock up crap. Yet nobody documented has developed permanent symptoms from smoking to much cannabis. Symptoms dissapear when smoking is disscontinued.

[RichieRich]

I think that too much of anything can potentially be harmful to you. Before you start claiming mary jane is responsible for the things you listed valkyre, I would seriously take a long look in the mirror and have a deep self examination. If you really really believe that Mary Jane is to be blamed for your issues then you should seriously consider stopping.

My biggest problem I have with the herb is that I have to hide it. I hate having to live a double life with people I know because of the legality issue.

[RIP ODB]

It seems like alot of people on this board jump on the 'because pot should be legal, it is harmless' bandwagon.

Who here actually acknowledges and accepts the pitfalls of MJ?
I smoked a little bit in high school, never bought. If someone offered me a puff on a joint, i would not turn it down. Never really was impressed with MJ, I am more of a drinker. Much alcohol has passed through this body. I don't get into trouble much. I haven't been arrested or anything like that, but I have had alot of run ins with law enforcement where i really could have been in a bad position but I always seemed to get out of it unscathed whether it is speeding or DUI/DWI or illegal immigrant smuggling. (fun stories)

Two years ago i started smoking regularly, everyday. Though I am not a loooong time smoker, I do consider myself a hardcore smoker. As long as my eyes are open, i will never turn it down. Before I started smoking, I did alot of public speaking. I have spoken in front of 3k people before and done very well, enough for numerous compliments. The summer before I started smoking, I got a great job where i sold 60k dollars worth of books for a publishing company. Awesome for a 20 year old college student. I bought a new car and paid for 2 full load semesters of college for 15 weeks of work. Now that I smoke, I get into much less trouble. I haven't had to talk to a single police officer in two years now. My affairs are in order, I get up on time without a hangover. I am in my 3rd year of college and plan on graduating in the next 2 years from one of the best business schools in the country.

Smoking is now a part of my personality. It fits me well and it lets me enjoy life a little bit more. However, I cannot speak like I used to. I cannot write like I used to. Now that I think back, I realize how sharp i was mentally and how dull I am now. I don't need to speak anywhere or sell anything, so it doesn't really matter. I have met enough stoners to be able to tell that MJ screws with the brain a good bit.

In my defense, at least I waited until I got into college to smoke pot. Lots of kids start smoking at 15....and end up nowhere. I am an optimist and a realist. If i would have smoked like i do now back when i was 15, i can almost guarantee that I wouldn't be where I am today.

Do any of yall feel any negative effects of MJ? I do acknowledge the negative affects of marijuana, and I choose to live with them. I do not see myself stopping anytime soon.

Discuss.

Man, get off your own nuts for a minute. Too much of anything will kill you. If you can smoke once in a while and be happy then pot is fine. But it's when you smoke repeatedly daily the negative effects start to really show. But hey, if you smoke as much as you say and you're doing as well in life as you claim to be then more power to you.

Anyway to answer your question, if I smoke a lot continuously then I find myself real lazy and stupid. I never get ANYTHING done and the more I smoke, the more it seems like I need it. Do I think marijuana has negative effects? Yes. But in my eyes they are only visible in heavy smokers.

[ValkyrieAg]

Oh. Im not dissing my Mary Jane, guys.:rastasmoke:

Im smoking a bowl right now. But no, im not blaming marijuana for anything. Everything in my life right now is kosher awesome. But I am just pointing out that some people seem to think that marijuana can do no wrong, when in fact i would agree that it really hurts short term memory and thought processes. Like i said, the small effects are nothing that bothers me, its just something I have noticed and felt like pointing out.

Also, as a drinker, I would NEVER say marijuana is more harmful than alcohol. Have you ever woke up and said "oh wow, I am never smoking again". No.

I mainly started the thread because of the caffeine thing. I don't think caffeine, as typically used by a consumer, (coffee, soda, stay awake, candy) is harmful at all. I have never seen anyone say their alphabet wrong after a 6 pack of cokes.

[Purple Banana]

Everything has negative to go with it... if you drink too much water, you can cause your heart to stop (electolyte imbalance and fluid overload, and all that jazz). As far as the short term memory goes? I can handle forgetting things once in a while, after all, I'm only human.

But there are ignorant people, especially some young teenagers who smoke because it's "cool" and don't respect cannabis. Those are they stereotypes that are automatically placed on all of us stoners, unfortunately. In my eyes, that is the only true negative part of cannabis. The rest is simply inconveniences.

[the yeag]

moderation my friends moderation...

[orangeman]

Well I do accept the fact that over use of anything is bad. And smoke is bad. So yes I know that smoking cannabis is not good for you...in a way. Smoking still is beneficial for some of the positive things cannabis can do but I do believe smoking it is defeating 50% of the purpose while the other 50% is still being effective, but that's only because of the smoke. I do understand when you abuse it you probably will have a bad bad fucking period in your life and once you stop abusing it you'll see how bad that was.

Lately I haven't been smoking much if at all and I can truly say I don't wanna go back to smoking every day, every hour of the day just for the fuck of it. I do have slight pains in my lungs but I suspect it's nothing more than lung inflammation since it doesn't even bother me at all when I inhale, exhale or even when it irritates me. But I do have something in the center of my chest that is a problem. I don't know what it is but I'm going to the doctors when ever, I've already told my mom and we're gonna go this month if not some time early next year. So yes I know cannabis has some negativeness to it but I still like it. You just have to really understand that cannabis can be abused and I wont speak for everyone but I will say having cannabinoids constantly flowing through my mind non-stop was not healthy and eventually made me sorta mentally ill and a overall messy person. Use it, don't abuse it .

[xcrispi]

given my present condition i see more pitfalls w/o than w/ .
lots more +'s than -'s so i'm not loosing any sleep over it
peace
crispi