god not of this world

[braddog10]

but perfection does not necessarily beget perfection. if a perfect "being" were to create perfection it would be duplicating itself and what would be the point of that?

Wow Delusion! Your Sig. It took me a minute. That's Alices Restaurant. I wonder how many here knows what that is.

Off topic. Sorry Guys.

Creation was perfect. He set the furniture in the room just right. The tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil had to be there also.
Hard to say, and many probably won't agree but everything brought us to the place that we needed to be for right relationship, instead of blind ignorance.
The Hell we go through here prepares us to be able to enjoy what is good. The cup Jesus drank, which we all drink by the way, is a cup of "suffering and Joy". A paradox but a powerful one.

Is all the crap in the world His Fault? United is right of coarse. We made the choices.
Don't forget "God weeps with those that weep".

[delusionsofNORMALity]

no, i'm merely pointing out that the excuse is overused. that line is used not only as an excuse but as the ultimate answer to far too many perfectly reasonable questions.

and

yes, my small rant was a bit unreasonable. it's not that i expect an immediate answer to these simple questions (the simple ones are often the hardest to explain). as a matter of fact i don't really expect an answer at all.

and

braddog; yes, the mythos is well established. create perfection with the seeds of its own destruction hidden in plain sight. doesn't it seem as though only a cruel deity would create such a no win situation. even with the possibility of eternal salvation as the expected outcome, it seems a rather vicious experiment.

and yes, it's the restaurant. you are probably one of the few here that will even recognize it. it's an old chestnut by present standards, but it brings back silly memories for me.

[BLaQLiGhT]

...
braddog; yes, the mythos is well established. create perfection with the seeds of its own destruction hidden in plain sight. doesn't it seem as though only a cruel deity would create such a no win situation. even with the possibility of eternal salvation as the expected outcome, it seems a rather vicious experiment.

- It can't be a no win situation if people have already won. If you lose, it's because you made the choice to lose...

- This so called vicious experiment/life is a gift of love from god. Just because most people choose to lose doesn't mean everyone chooses to lose. It goes with my above opinion, people have already won and are in heaven.

- And just because god knows what we are going to do doesn't mean that he is making us do anything. It's like if you have a dog and you put food on the floor, you know the dog is going to go eat it. But that doesn't mean you made the dog eat the food. The world is not being runned by god, but by the devil. If the world was being run by god, we would be enjoying life to the max everyday with no pain. What makes me sad are people who don't believe in god and that jesus died for us. I think These people are living a life with no true meaning since when they die, they have nothing to look foward to . I'm going to a better place . I happy to be a part of his creations... GOD BLESS THE UNIVERSE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT AND EVERYTHING FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME TO THE END OF TIME !!

[Delta9 UK]

I think These people are living a life with no true meaning since when they die, they have nothing to look foward to . I'm going to a better place . I happy to be a part of his creations... GOD BLESS THE UNIVERSE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT AND EVERYTHING FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME TO THE END OF TIME !!

So because I don't beleive - I don't get into Heaven?

What kind of a god would punish me like that? hmmm? Seems a bit harsh.

...and if the Devil runs everything here what happened to hell? I thought that was made for Satan (well, lucifer - lets remember he WAS an angel) and he's supposed to sit his ass there until God stops being pissed at him. Or Christ turns up and fetches him upstairs for one major bollocking

OH, hang on - that means we are living in Hell!!!!!!!!!! Noooooooooooo!

LMAO

Stop living in fear, no god would want that - the problem with God is that People invented it.

[Delta9 UK]

To re-iterate a little.

If god, heaven/afterlife whatever exists (truth!) then they/it exist(s) :: Full Stop, it either does or doesn't.

If I beleive it or not is of little significance - to be honest I will be a bit surprised if I'm wrong, but I'll be happy to admit I was wrong

[Delta9 UK]

And no, people did not invent God. People distorted his ways.

OK - you got me, I can smoke to that