Quote Originally Posted by braddog10
I'm asking God to open your eyes to see something. There is something prophetic here. I know it sounds very strange. bear with me here. Your paradigm will radically change.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and Lean not to your own Understanding Proverbs 3:5
"lean not to your own understanding"?

I preferre the Buddha's "Believe nothing, no matter where you hear it, no matter who has said it, even if I have said it, unless it makes sense to your own logic and common sense".

Telling an atheist he/she will find god through intellectual submission to an unproven entity is not going to convince him/her. When people say "submit to gods will and you will find him", and outsider such as myself views this as "submit to the belief until the part of your mind that question's it goes silent".

My personal belief is that true salvation lies in humanities understanding of the universe and its workings. When we understand everything in existence and how to control it, we will then have control over our own existence parallel to that of the illusionary god we worship.

If any of you wish to believe in god, I'm certainly not going to convince you otherwise. But I would ask that you at least hold philisophical belief over doctrine. Philisophical belief is open to intellectual interpretation, discussion, exploration, and change. Doctrine chisseles a belief in stone and has been responsible for thousands of years of oppression, particularily of those seeking to make progress at the expense of the doctrine of dominant powers (that includes religious, political, and otherwise). Believe what you think is right, but don't supress all else to others or yourself. Everything, including our knowledge, is ultimately impermanent.