USA Has supported Terrorists

[Herbaholic00]

In a post yesterday someone made the point that the USA's 'War on Terror' is targeting Terrorists of all types and the countires that harbour and support them.

From my view point the U.S. government ( i know the is a disticntion between the people and gov ) are as guilty of allowing terrorists to live in their country as anyone of the countries they use the excuse of Terrorism to attack (and install their puppet governments, Its funny how Bush and Blair didn't want elections held earlier than planned in Iraq for fear of someone gaining power who didn;t want the occupation to continue)

Back to my point......

Here in the UK we have been fighting Terrorism in the form of the IRA for many decades.

Irish Terrorists have been supported heavily by some Irish Americans. It seems strange how this has been allowed to happen considering the states hard line on terror.

It is my belief that terrorism and terror threats are exagerated and used as a scare tactic and an excuse to pass bills such as the patriot/homelands act (we have an equivelent in the UK). The passing of these acts also ties in very nicely to the New World Order aswell.

The saying ORDER OUT OF CHAOS applies perfectly.

If you create enough chaos then the people will be scarred enough into handing over their rights and their freedom to the government.

It is the governemnts of the world that are the real terrorists. It wont be long until we live in a world where simply speaking out against the government will be seen as an act of terror.


Peace

Herbaholic00 Reviewed by Herbaholic00 on 11-16-2004. USA Has supported Terrorists In a post yesterday someone made the point that the USA's 'War on Terror' is targeting Terrorists of all types and the countires that harbour and support them. From my view point the U.S. government ( i know the is a disticntion between the people and gov ) are as guilty of allowing terrorists to live in their country as anyone of the countries they use the excuse of Terrorism to attack (and install their puppet governments, Its funny how Bush and Blair didn't want elections held earlier Rating: 5

[Euphoric]

right on.

[Herbaholic00]

Glad u agree

Peace

[Herbaholic00]

Just some more weight to the argumnet............

I think I have posted this before but for those who missed it, read it.
And if you dont know who William cooper is do some reading.

Just look at the date on the article!!!!, hes talking about oil companys benefiting!!!!! this guy aint got a crystal ball, he was one of the few people who knew the real situation with the government.

Who Benefits?
The question no one dares to ask!
by William Cooper



Veritas News Service - Exclusive, September 15, 2001 -- Who benefits from the World Trade Center and Pentagon terrorist attacks? I can tell you that no Arab nation benefits. I can tell you that no Muslim benefits. So why would any of them mount an attack that even the most stupid idiot fanatic in the world would understand to be the instrument of the absolute condemnation and alienation of his cause by all humanity?

Like most Americans I looked to the Arab world for the source of the attack, Not because it was the most obvious solution, but because I have been programed by the media to look only in that direction. I did not look elswhere until stories appeared that set alarm bells ringing. Are we being deceived and manipulated? Who benefits from these attacks?


Points to ponder about the second World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks.

1. Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said, "There is such a taboo on suicide in Islam, it is completely prohibited in Islam, that we find it inconceivable that somebody would invoke the name of God and then commit some act that is totally opposed to the faith."

2. The video of Palistinians in the streets celebrating news of the attacks was made at around noon according to visible shadows. At the time the video was shot it had to have been near or after sunset in that part of the world. Therefore the video could not have been shot on the day or at the time claimed.

3. Devout Muslims who would be willing to sacrifice themselves for their cause do not frequent bars and do not ever drink alchoholic beverages.

4. A devout Muslim would not take a copy of his holy book the Quran to a bar and leave it behind when he left after spending an evening drinking, participating in lapdances, and bragging about pending bloodshed to take place the following day. Who is so stupid that they would believe this?

5. Men who have been so careful during 5 years of planning, training, and careful preparations that never allowed even one leak do not brag the night before their mission that they are going to cause violence and bloodshed the following day, using credit cards with their correct names, allowing drivers licenses with photos to be xeroxed, nor do they spread incriminating evidence around like popcorn.

6. A devout Muslim on the way to his death would not leave his holy Quran in a parked car. He would take it with him.

7. According to news accounts the perpetrators planned the attack as long ago as 5 years, trained to carry out the attack, pulled it off without a hitch, and no information regarding the attack was ever leaked to anyone.

8. Reference #7. Now someone wants us to believe that these were a bunch of drunken fools who shot pistols in their homes, braggarts, who spoke of impending violence and bloodshed to everyone they met and left incriminating evidence everywhere. We are supposed to believe that by some incredible miracle they escaped the notice of every law enforcement and intelligence agency in the entire world. Now read #7 again.

9. Why did the hi-jackers force passengers to call relatives?

10. They were able to hi-jack 4 large commercial jets full of passengers without any problem.

11. They were able to deviate from the flight plan and crash into their targets without any effort from law enforcement or the military to stop them.

12. The simultaneous hi-jackings of 4 large commercial jet aircraft did not alert anyone to the possibility of the impending attacks.

13. Despite the evidence of wreckage strewn over several miles in Pennsylvania and the testimony of eye witnesses the government still denies that Flt-93 was shot down by an F-16 fighter aircraft that was identified as having flown for many miles alongside and behind the hi-jacked plane. Reference the links to the CNN Transcript and the link F-16 Fighter below:

14. Within an hour of the attacks the FBI knew the names, addresses, flight schools they had attended, the aquaintences of the suspects, and had begun a nationwide roundup... yet they cannot find Chandra Levy nor can they say what happened to Jon Benet Ramsey. Pretty strange don't you think?

So who benefits? The answer is obvious and very disturbing. Everyone in the oil business will benefit, especially the Bush family and their business partners. Everyone in the defense industrial complex will benefit. The United Nations will benefit. The State of Israel will benefit bigtime. Tyranny in the name of security will benefit and rule over the American People. And donâ??t be surprised if many Patriots and politically incorrect Americans begin to disappear overnight like the Jews and Gypsys in Nazi Germany.


Peace

[Herbaholic00]

More weight and look at the date.................................

To every one that knows........ Sorry to keep posting on this subject but there are still alot of people who think the war is about terror.


William Cooper Predicts

Veritas News Service - Exclusive, January 18, 2001 -- The following indicators point to a major Middle East war erupting in the very near future. When reading this remember that Bush is an oilman like his father.

1. Israel has told its Citizens to prepare for a real war and has asked for a call-up of all reserves.

2. Arab States have entered into a mutual defense pact.

3. Palestinian/Israeli/Arab relations are at the lowest point since the 6 Day War.

4. President Clinton's Middle East interference increased tensions and destroyed what peace had existed.

5. Price of oil at this time is fluctuating around $29 per barrel and predicted to plunge.

6. Although the present price of oil is not high enough to be profitable for American drillers, and the experts are predicting a price plunge, Texas and Oklahoma insiders are drilling like crazy. They are spending money on oil drilling equipment and new exploration like the old "Burkburnett field" had just been discovered.

7. The only place the drillers could have obtained inside information that would make such ventures profitable is from the mouth of George W. Bush himself, a seasoned oil business professional who is now President.

8. The only information that Bush could give them that would make them believe that the price of oil is going to go up instead of down is that he will engage the United States in a major war in the Middle East.

9. Bush has a score to settle on behalf of his father ex-President George H. W. Bush the man who engaged us in the Gulf War but failed to take down Saddam Hussein... a failure for which he has been severely criticized.

10. The economy is in trouble with a recession predicted.

11. Every time in the last 30 years the economy has been in trouble there has been an oil crisis, or an oil shortage with accompanying inflation. The problem was always blamed on the oil crisis that always proved later to have been a lie.

12. If there is a major war in the Middle East you can expect to see oil to soar to a bare minimum of $80 per barrel, possibly much higher.

13. The US military is gearing up for a war in the Middle East.

14. All US forces in Europe and the Middle East have been placed on alert.

15. Patriot Missiles are being readied for deployment to Israel.

16. The Federal Reserve has shifted back to Keynesian economics according to Greenspan's last speech.

17. Bush has pledged to rebuild the military and the best way to do it is to create a need i.e. WAR.

18. I have been informed by several military officers that we will be involved in a major war in the Middle East within one year of Bush taking office as President of the United States.

19. The goal of the war will be to solve the Palestinian/Israel problem with finality, completely destroy the Arab capability to make war upon Israel, and to capture or kill Saddam Hussein.

20. Raw materials and defense industry stocks will replace tech stocks as the big money makers on the stock exchange for the next few years

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[psychocat]

The US goverment was responsible for Pinochets rise to power , they also helped the Taliban and Saddam to gain power because it served US interests.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...1_carlyle.html

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/sep/18iraq.htm

[Lulu]

Yes Irish Americans did send money home for the I.R.A. Alot of these were direct dissendents of emigrants who fled the country during and shortly after the Great Famine and incase you didn't get to study that particular section of Irish History at your school it wasn't just about "Potato Blight"

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/his...ato_famine.cfm

We have a long history of suffering at the hands of English imposed rule. Irish Catholics were banned from voting, education, owning land, having a profession and practising their religion.

Although I in no way condone or support killing or terrorism in any shape or form, I can see where it all began.

Remember Bloody Sunday?????

http://larkspirit.com/bloodysunday/

[Herbaholic00]

incase you didn't get to study that particular section of Irish History at your school it wasn't just about "Potato Blight"

A bit patronising lol...........

Although I in no way condone or support killing or terrorism in any shape or form, I can see where it all began.

Agreed I can see where it all began.

btw dont be offended with what I was saying, I was making a point on how ironic the war on terror is and how it has been used to create order out of chaos.




Peace

[Lulu]

A bit patronising lol...........

Yes it was, apologies

Peace