so to me it sounds like if you have some grows under your belt that it can be done with mg. To me i guess it was a learning process. You really have to know what u are doing with the nute's and other shit though but it is teaching me alot so i guess thats a good thing. Everything u told me so far has worked out great so thanks to all... i was wondering , they are about 5 weeks and almost 2 feet tall can i start 12/12 now or should i veg longer, they also have been lsting since they where about three weeks so they are shooting all over the place, (bag seed) not sure on strain.