AH HA! My mind can finally rest in ease- I was really hoping you would drop by this thread, you are definitely a thrip fighting veteran! Now I can continue my fight... End-All seems to work pretty well at killing them, however it takes a few minutes to knock them out, and I think the spray misses some of the larvae cause they are sooo small. So I am going to spray with End-All more often, and then spray with Neem every two days or so- hopefully to at least stop them from eating the plant. I am bummed that diacromaceous earth stuff is banned in canada- I was thinking of getting some. Well, thanks for all the help Stinky, as usual