Hey Mr.D Man It's good to see you. I went to your link for Talk Origins. You do realize that their arguements are posted with no rebutal. Something also I found weak is that the bulk of there reference sources are 20 and 30 yrs old. Even Going to the latest areas of research involving Molecular Biology is pretty feeble. Their argueing that Items missing in a forming cell can still live or bring forth life. They touched on a few points. . . protein transports for one. Very weak. The References on the site had just a few after the year two thousand. Most were from the 60's and 70's. Scientific researchers are shifting more toward intelligent design. It has been too much a frustration to argue that an irreducible cell could just occur. There are inumerable chemical interactions necessary for a cell to live, and for complex DNA to form for that cell? Ahuge stretch. The absence of much at all can't make it. It is becoming more agreed that a single cell is irreducible. It's just too weak to argue otherwise. I guess we can say It requires too much faith. Ironic isn't it. On the fringe some have adopted some kind of extraterestial influence, which I deem strange.
For some of these people it's like "Anything But God".

Have a good Holiday my friend.