Some of my issues with "intelligent design."

[Pass That Shit]

I agree with Stemis. I don't bash you guys either. But I understand that faith is offensive. I would need to sit and type for 18 hours to explain to Mr.D why he lacks knowledge and understanding. So I don't. Mr.D, I'm just sharing my point of view. I'm not seeking the truth in a conversation with you. I'm sharing my testimony. If you have made your points, everyone will read them and see your wisdom. We don't have to prove each other wrong. I read your posts and I can see what you don't see (him). I can't make you see what I see (him). Your gospel is not rooted and grounded in truth. You lack moisture. You can keep making the same point about proving me wrong, but I don't stear from you cause I don't have an answer. I post as I please.

You guys want to act like it's only the christians saying that we're right.
Do you guys ever say that we're right? We are all the same. Share your heart.

Pass That Shit Reviewed by Pass That Shit on 12-16-2006. Some of my issues with "intelligent design." I don't mean this as an attack on anybody for holding such beliefs, but I do bleieve it's essential to give serious and logical consideration to both sides of such a claim. It's nobody's "fault" for holding beliefs for or against god, but merely their belief that their reasoning is sound, is what's faulty. That being said... INTELLIGENT DESIGN: Before considering intelligent design, also consider this; does it not seem a bit suspicious to you that that we carry SO many behavioral Rating: 5

[braddog10]

Hey Mr.D Man It's good to see you. I went to your link for Talk Origins. You do realize that their arguements are posted with no rebutal. Something also I found weak is that the bulk of there reference sources are 20 and 30 yrs old. Even Going to the latest areas of research involving Molecular Biology is pretty feeble. Their argueing that Items missing in a forming cell can still live or bring forth life. They touched on a few points. . . protein transports for one. Very weak. The References on the site had just a few after the year two thousand. Most were from the 60's and 70's. Scientific researchers are shifting more toward intelligent design. It has been too much a frustration to argue that an irreducible cell could just occur. There are inumerable chemical interactions necessary for a cell to live, and for complex DNA to form for that cell? Ahuge stretch. The absence of much at all can't make it. It is becoming more agreed that a single cell is irreducible. It's just too weak to argue otherwise. I guess we can say It requires too much faith. Ironic isn't it. On the fringe some have adopted some kind of extraterestial influence, which I deem strange.
For some of these people it's like "Anything But God".

Have a good Holiday my friend.

[Delta9 UK]

I studied Medical Microbiology to honours degree level.

There is an overwhelming amount of data and study to support evolution.

The notion that there is a true alternative to what I see, understand and experience - simply boggles my mind. Now maybe I'm brainwashed by science but there is a whole hell of a lot more there for me to beleive in.

I don't see science and faith as the same either and I'm not mixing the actions of organised religions (mostly bad) with personal belief systems.

I don't mean to offend or insult anyone (your beliefs are your own) and I think part of being human is just wanting to reason with the world and make your own path.

I'm just a bit stunned when creationist arguments even get credibility vs science. Only in the US of course

[Delta9 UK]

So until scientists can tell us what caused the energy to create the Big Bang, God is just as "logical" as anything.

That's not evidence of god, its just proof that we don't know for sure how it happened.

We didn't know how the Earth was formed at one point in time and assumed a higher power created it - now we know better. If at the time you believed god made the Earth you were wrong, wrong then and wrong now.

The thing is that this argument will go on forever - if we solve how the big bang started - then who created that? and who created whatever created the thing that created the big bang and so on and so forth... ad infinitum

[harris7]

I think billafold is right, (not that i agree though)

god will continue to fill the gaps in science until science is able to fill the gaps. We've seen it in the past. and what he says is kinda true.
But it shouldn't!

Delta, I also have formally studied biology, ecology and evolution. You have a higher edu. in it than me and I'm wondering if you would check out my evolution thread and tell me what you think of my short breakdown of evolution. (i actually forgot to finish it, but a lots there)

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=88860

[Delta9 UK]

Why did I open with my Degree.... Now I sound like a jerk.

That thread looks intersting I'm reading now

[Delta9 UK]

OK I spammed your Evolution thread harris