Some information from Greg Green's grow Bible, posted by KP for your perusal

[trichome city area]

I'm not a copyright lawyer but kindprincess is guilty of the type of overt plagarism that really pisses me off...when you copy and paste more than a hundred pages of a published authors work to the internet and post answers to hundreds of questions with the same author's work without acknowledgement then you are really ripping that poor bastard off...

At least acknowledge the thousands of hours of original work that went into your copy and pasted answers before you accept praise and accolades from a bunch of teenagers who have never bought a book before...

I've been growing more than fifty years, before most of you were even born...there is always something new to learn in horticulture but make sure you give credit where credit is due...The Cannabis Grow Bible is one of the best books to come along in the last ten years...

[kindprincess]

here's one for you sweetie; i've never read the cannabis grow bible, don't know who wrote it... and it is irrelevent, as this info has been altered in several ways. therefore, it is NOT plagerism. not only have the excerpts been altered (your man loves typos...) but it is even stated, "from marijuanahydro.com"

don't believe me? here's a fucking link...

http://www.marijuanahydro.com/mature...anaplants.html

now, tell me mister pissed off about plagerism dude, where the fuck does it say who wrote this? i don't see it... if it was there, then it would be noted at the beginning of the thread. if this info had been taken from a book, then all titles/authors would have been noted. i am NOT a plagerist, i have not attempted to take credit for "writing" this info...

i take credit for creating this thread. now, if you can show me that this came "directly" from the grow bible, and give me authors, page numbers, etc., i'd be happy to ask bobbong to place it in the beginning of the thread. if not, then get off my back, and help other noobs find this thread.

and just a side line... this thread was created because of 50 year vet growers bieng assholes and not answering questions. that is why i've become so popular; not only do i say, "you need to read some more", i also show them what to read, where to find it...

you get my point?

now, on the offhand, plagerism is defined as copying directly another's work; this is not exact, has been altered, changed, mixed up....

therefore, kindprincess is guilty of no overt plagerism. mr. 50 year grower? get off my fucking back please. if you're going to get on a soap box, then try to do so with someone who has not read the dictionary. before you go on about plagerism again, here's that link ...

http://www.marijuanahydro.com/mature...anaplants.html

don't you love copy/paste?

kp

[trichome city area]

First of all kid, I don't appreciate you swearing at me like that. I told you I'd been growing for more than fifty years...I'm seventy-one years old, older than your grandparents I bet. Don't you ever call me an asshole again and then tell me how popular you've become in the same breath...it just reinforces what a shallow, insecure little fool you are. I'm not here to rain on your reign of popularity kindprincess, the desire for popularity is extremely acute in teenage girls, just respond to me with a civil tongue, okay?

Secondly, resorting to profanity in any debate, written or verbal, typically indicates the beginning of a losing argument. When you grow up and should you ever become a real Headmistress or Professor you will understand this...

All I said in my original post was that you need to credit this work to Greg Green, the author of The Cannabis Grow Bible...he doesn't care that it's available free on the internet, in fact it was originally published that way. There is a review here on amazon which lists the chapters and sub-headings, compare them please to your own KP's Cannabis College thread and have the decency to keep your word and give credit to the appropriate author, your thread starts off:

KP's Cannabis College:Cannabis Issues, Facts and Guide.

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hi guys, i see so much bickering about noob q's, i've decided to put a complete (if borrowed) grow log, right here on cb.com... i hope these become stickies; i think it would help everyone

Table of Contents
post #1 about cannabis:the plant
post #2 all about seeds
post #3 pre-flowering and flowering
post #4 growing indoors
post #5 indoor enviornmental
post #6 indoor growing methods/advanced
post #7 indoor vs. outdoor
post #8 propagation and germination
post #9 breeding
post #10 advanced breeding
post #11 simple breeding
post #12 true breeding
post #13 harvesting and curing
post #14 the grower's checklist
post #15 issues and facts
post #16 making hash

this thread was designed to be a cannabis.com grower's tutorial. i hope it is used and reffered to often, as almost anything and everything you'd ever want or need to know about cannabis is in the following pages, and i will be expanding the context over the next few weeks. so keep on the lookout for new information and cannabis college courses...

enjoy

~Head Mistress KP~


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...views.start=18

All I stated was that credit for the work should be given where it is due, with the author of the work. I carefully chose my words by calling you guilty of overt plagiarism, because to give you the benefit of the doubt, I still don't think you understand completely what plagiarism is, do you understand what overt means? I know you added that you'd borrowed the work, so you are not a plagiarist, i never said that, but when given the opportunity to give credit to the original author is offered, then you should absolutely consider it relevent...

When you buy a hamburger at Burger King and open it up and re-arrange the lettuce, tomatoes and pickles it doesn't mean you have now made the hamburger, you've just re-arranged the order of the ingredients. When you change the order of the chapters to a published authors book it doesn't mean the book isn't plagiarised, it is...

Every time somebody thanks you, every time you shamelessly plug your thread, everytime you answer a question with the information in this thread and every time you vainly wish that your thread becomes a 'stickie' you need to graciously acknowledge the man who actually wrote it. You need to acknowledge that none of the half a million words you have copied and pasted represent any of your own original thoughts, experiences or knowledge. The gift of knowledge is far more important than a popularity contest, The Cannabis Grow Bible is a wonderful piece of work, like I said before, one of the best cultivation books to come out for many years...your secretarial skills and ability to copy and paste and your rising popularity in your self-inflated, egotistical mind are a fine testament to that...

And now to change the subject, do you have any questions that an old asshole grower could answer?

[kindprincess]

kp's cannabis college: seeds
from marijuanahydro.com


this was at the beginning of each individual post. it may have been lost when bob put them together and added the table of contents. i have made every effort to give credit where it's do; however, if you go to the link i provided, you'll soon note that there is no mention of the author or the name of the book from which it came. now, this is from the link you provided...

The Greg Green Collection (two books) like Marijuana Growing is a worthy hobby and next to a collection of High Times magazines is certainly one of largest written texts on a plant, running more than an extra couple of thousand words than the other items out there. Although Greg Green is not the longest running marijuana writer, you get around 600 pages of solid growing information. Each page is crammed with no nonsense information without extra filler internet photographs where you want words. In terms of text nothing comes even remotely close to that. And this is no nonsense information without babbling. By the end of the collection you should have a garden that defines the word awe. This is the kind of item that requires a few minutes of you hobby time a day over the course of two or three crops. The Cannabis Bible series creator Greg Green nails a powerful premise, realizing the contradictions and errors of pot journalism (that everyone talks about) versus real world growing and sets up a book at odds with what was done before and includes medical use. Most pages play along with the theme of teaching the grower everything from the ground up, focusing on new discoveries while eliminating confusion and erroneous information picked up elsewhere. There are no guest star writers appearing midway who start talking about the same thing another way or cancel out of confuse you even more. It is pretty much less about theory and more about showing the reader how it is done. It is a complete work from start to end. The scope or coverage is beyond that of what you might expect from a pot book. Just look.

Chapter 1: The Cannabis Plant
A Brief History of Cannabis, The High, THC, Resin, Zero Zero, The Plant, Male Plant, Female Plant, Hermaphrodite Plant, Sinsemilla Plant, Strains and Species, A Word About Male Potency, The Life Cycle of the Marijuana Plant, Germination, Seedling, Vegetative Growth, Pre-flowering, Flowering, Seed Production, Cycle Times, The Decision to Grow

Chapter 2: Seeds
Selecting Seeds, How To Get Seeds, Choosing a Seed Bank, Breeder's Packaging, Storing Seeds

Chapter 3: Propagation and Germination
What is Propagation?, Propagation Logistics, Germination Techniques, Seed Soil Propagation, Seed Towel Propagation, Propagation Kits, Scuffing Seeds, Dangers when Germinating Seeds, Transplanting Seedlings, Transplant Shock

Chapter 4: The Great Divide: Indoors or Outdoors?
Gardening Tools, Planning for Indoor Growing, Planning for Outdoor Growing and Guerrilla Farming, Security, The Most Important Advice Ever About Growing Cannabis, Indoor Security, Outdoor Security, Guerrilla Growing Security

Chapter 5: The Indoor Growing Environment
Lighting, Color Bands and Plant Growth, Basics of Photosynthesis, Common Lighting Types, Horticulture Lights, Metal Halide (MH) and Mercury Vapor (MV) Lights, High-Pressure Sodium (HPS) Lights, Lamp Efficiency Tables, Wattage and Lumens, Lumens and Marijuana Growing, The General Illumination Formula, What to Look for when Buying a Lighting Kit, How to Get the Most from Your Lighting System, Adjusting Your Lights, 24/0 and 16/8 - The Vegetative Photoperiod, Electrical Costs, Soil, pH, Nutrients, Composition, Common Soil Types, Clay,
Humus, Sands and Silts, Loam, Perlite and Vermiculite, Moss, Mixing Soils and Soil Ratios, Understanding the NPK ratio, Pots, Double Potting

Chapter 6: Indoor Environmental Control
Nutrient Control, Problematic Nutrients, Macronutrient Disorders: A Rough Guide, Nitrogen (N), Phosphorus (P), Potassium (K), Calcium (Ca), Sulfur (S), Magnesium (Mg), Feeding, Soil Control, pH - Bringing Back to Neutral from Acidic, pH - Bringing Back to Neutral from Alkaline, pH up / pH down, Water Control, Air Control, Odor Control, Ionizing, Ozone Generating, Activated Carbon Air Filtering
Ventilation, Fans, Humidity, Temperature, Timers, CO2 (Carbon Dioxide), Calculating How Much Carbon Dioxide You Need, Climate Controllers, Soil Flushing

Chapter 7: Pre-flowering and Flowering
Cannabis Plant Anatomy Illustrations, Pre-flowering and Early Sexing, Checking for Calyx Development, Early Sexing Methods, When to Flower?, The All-important 12/12!, Problems with 12/12, Pre-flowering for the 24/0 and 18/6 Photoperiods, The Male/Female Thing or How to Sex Your Plants, Male Flowering, Flowering

Chapter 8: Advanced Indoor Soil-based Grow Methods
Preparing the 'Special Clone Mother', SOG, ScrOG
ScrOG Growing by RealHigh, Cabinet Growing, Perpetual Grow Cycles, Customizing Advanced Setups

Chapter 9: Hydroponics
The Grower and the Growing Medium, Hydroponic Systems, Nutrient Film Technique (NFT), Flood & Drain/Ebb & Flow, Drip Irrigation, Aeroponics, Wick,
Gravity, Automatic and Manual Hydroponic Pots, Setting up the Hydroponic Environment, Hydroponic Nutrients, The Hydroponic Growing Medium, Rockwool, Expanded Clay Pellets, Oasis Cubes, Coconut Fiber, Soil-less Mixes, Perlite, Vermiculite, Preparing Nutrient Solutions, Hydroponic pH, Algae, Grow and Bloom, A Word about Nutrients Strengths, Controlling the Hydroponic Environment, Monitoring Recycle Systems, Hard Water Problems, When to Add More Nutrients, Affordable Hydroponics, The Bubbler

Chapter 10: Outdoor Growing
Outdoor Soil, Caring for Outdoor Plants, Weeding, Watering, Air Pruning, Outdoor Flowering and the Photoperiod

Chapter 11: Caring for Mature Marijuana Plants
Thinning, Light Bending, Pruning for Yield, Topping, FIM Technique, Super Cropping Technique, How to Make Cannabis Bushes, Training, Cloning, How to Air Layer a Clone, Bonsai Clones, Sinsemilla Hermaphrodites, Increasing Yield, Reverting to Vegetative Growth, Increasing Your Chances of Females, End of the Grow

Chapter 12: Predators, Pests and Plant Fungi
Domestic Pets, Pesticides, Herbicides and Fungicides,
Pest Index, Pest Predators, Recovering from a Pest Invasion, Fungi

Chapter 13: Problem Solver
Chemical Burns, Nutrient Deficiencies, 10 Steps to Saving Your Grow, No Cure for Bad Genetics

Chapter 14: Harvesting and Curing Your Bud
The Harvest, Quick Bud Samples, Expert Harvest Indication, Indica Harvest, Sativa Harvest, Fan Leaves, Leaves and Trim, Manicuring, Curing

Chapter 15: How to Breed Marijuana
Making Seeds, Collecting and Storing Pollen, Collecting and Storing Seeds, Simple Breeding, Continuing a Strain through Seeds, Making a Simple Hybrid, Introduction to Plant Genetics, The Hardy-Weinberg Model of Genetic Equilibrium, Genetic Equilibrium Theory and Practice, The Test Cross, Hardy-Weinberg Law, Part 2, Mendel and the Pea Experiments, The First Hybrid Cross (the F1 Generation), More on Genetic Frequencies, How to True Breed a Strain, Advanced Breeding Techniques, Simple Backcrossing, How to Generate a Clone Mother, Selfing, Notes on Selfing by Vic High, Concluding Thoughts on Breeding

Chapter 16: Strain Index
(Listings and Ratings for 50 Cannabis Strains plus extras)

Chapter 17: How to Make Hash
Gathering the Stalked Capitate Trichomes, Skuff, Screening, Advanced Screening, Drum Machines, Basic Water Extraction, Advanced Water Extraction, Supercritical Fluid Extraction (Hash Oil), Pressing Resin into Hash

Chapter 18: Important Cannabis Issues
Is Cannabis Getting Stronger?, The Truth about Hyper-Potent Cannabis, How to Avoid Taking Cancer Causing Agents, Vaporization, Build Your Own Light Bulb Vaporizer, Cannabis Legalization and Social Issues, Cannabis and Young Adults, Cannabis is a Reality, The Alcohol Vs Cannabis Debate, Cannabis and Violence, Cannabis and Brain Damage, Medical Cannabis Should Not Be A Legal Issue, So Why is Cannabis Illegal Then?, Cannabis and the Institute of Medicine (IOM), Cannabis and Harder Drugs (The Gateway Theory), Cannabis and Memory, Cannabis and Paper Production, Cannabis and Illegal Drug Classification, Cannabis and Mind Control, Cannabis Prohibition has Failed, Cannabis Prohibition and Lawsuits, Cannabis and the Author

Chapter 19: The Cannabis Grow Bible Checklist
Good Genetics, Proper Lighting, An Ounce of Prevention, Air Circulation and Ventilation, The Right Medium, Optimal Pot/Container Size, Safe Fertilizers, 12/12, Avoiding Plant Stress, Carbon Dioxide (CO2), Labelling

Resources
Cannabis Websites
Hash and Processing
Hydroponics and Lighting
Medical Cannabis Information
Seed Banks
Vaporizers

sounds like these may indeed have originally come from The Cannabis Grow Bible... greg green, this one's for you babe, hope it lives forever, and is always invaluable to others...

now, props given where props are deserved, i don't appreciate your attack on my character. i care nothing of fame and popularity. as a matter of fact, i'll soon not be seen anywhere on the net. i have tried to provide as much help to this site as i've gotten from it. here's my first response...

"it is mentioned in the beginning of the thread that these excerpts are "directly" from marijuanahydro.com. i took the time to organize that info into a thread (several, actually) here, for all to have quick reference to. thanks to bobbong, this thread now is consolidated and has table of contents.

my sole intent when performing this task was to help others. should i be faulted? or should i continue to spread the word that this info is here and available?"

i allowed where this info came from. i stated my purpose. i asked a legitimate question... now, my second statement, immediately following...

OFFICIAL DISCLAIMER

I DID NOT WRITE THIS GUIDE. I PUT SEVERAL ARTICLES FROM ONE WEBSITE TOGETHER, IN A DIFFERENT ORDER. I HAVE, HOWEVER READ ALL OF THESE ARTICLES AT LEAST ONCE, AND HAVE PUT ONLY THOSE THAT I DEEMED HELPFUL IN THIS THREAD. I DO NOT, NOR HAVE I EVER INTENDED TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THESE WORKS.

kp

now, i did not have any evidence at all to back your original statement...

"You need to credit this work to "Greg Green" the author of, the Cannabis Grow Bible, The definative guide to growing marijuana for recreational and medical use...he wrote the book Princess..."

however, i did say where I got the info from. this is your next statement...

I'm not a copyright lawyer but kindprincess is guilty of the type of overt plagarism that really pisses me off...when you copy and paste more than a hundred pages of a published authors work to the internet and post answers to hundreds of questions with the same author's work without acknowledgement then you are really ripping that poor bastard off...

At least acknowledge the thousands of hours of original work that went into your copy and pasted answers before you accept praise and accolades from a bunch of teenagers who have never bought a book before...

I've been growing more than fifty years, before most of you were even born...there is always something new to learn in horticulture but make sure you give credit where credit is due...The Cannabis Grow Bible is one of the best books to come along in the last ten years...


in my oppinion, everything in this post is uncalled for. i listed the site of original context, i mentioned in a blunt fashion that these are NOT my original thought or writings... what reason do you have to attack me?

furthermore, i never called you an asshole. here's my statement...

and just a side line... this thread was created because of 50 year vet growers bieng assholes and not answering questions. that is why i've become so popular; not only do i say, "you need to read some more", i also show them what to read, where to find it...

in other words, i put this together to help people who know nothing, and expreinced persons turn away(assholes). if you don't do so, then disregard; i used your age/years of experience as a metaphor to this fact. but, i responded with agression, anger, and profanity from your personal attack on me. i rarely swear, but you pushed me over the edge. look around this site and count how many times you see me reply like that...

when you say, "I'm not a copyright lawyer but kindprincess is guilty of the type of overt plagarism that really pisses me off...", i respond with my honest opinion.

now, if i've left nothing out, i think this debate should end. you were right, i was right, you were wrong, i was wrong. bang... the end.

and, as a matter of fact i do have a question for you, all bullshit and differences aside; do you know the origin of yukon gold, or if it is still in existence at all?

[colorockman]

Kind Princess, you have replied to most of my posts looking for answers, would I have taken the information I needed more readily from some '50year grower' maybe, maybe not. But the fact remains the 'old guy' didn't answer my posts, YOU DID. I started reading this post and from the start I was immediately put into the mind set that I was reading excerpt's from a previously written arcticle. Never was I led to believe that you were this GREAT GENIUS with all the answers. I was always left with the feeling that, wow this kind princess sure is cool to take the time to gather all this info and put it into one post...
I went to it to find out all I could about harvest time, as it is getting close to that time in my personal quest to rid myself of the 'dealer'. As it turns out all my questions were answered, and then some.

I've never heard of this Tricome City, but I have been continually blessed with the time KP has taken to answer my questions.

Taking this from 'The Random House College Dictionary' i quote
'ASSHOLE- 2. a mean or contemptible person or thing' ie, see Trichomes post

well I for one can easily come to the conclusion after reading through this whole post that this Trichome Dude feels he has to feed his ego by belittling those who are actually out there helping people REGARDLESS of how, or where they get there info.
This remiinds me of what my mother used to say 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' and no, my mother was not the original author of that quote.

Thank you Kind Princess for
TAKING THE TIME TO HELP US OUT!
and please don't go anywhere........

[kindprincess]

a note to anyone who may read this thread:

THIS INFO DID INDEED COME FROM GREG GREEN'S CANNABIS GROW BIBLE. TRICHOME CITY, WHILE BEING RATHER HARSH ABOUT IT ALL, IS CORRECT.
I SENT A THREAD OUT TO BOBBONG TO PUT CREDITS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE THREAD. THIS IS A NOTICE TO ALL, CREDIT THIS THREAD TO GREG GREEN.

thanx, and have a nice day.

[postmandave]

just read this thread thoughly and i got to agree to tricome city here but that is not to say that im knocking the prinsess for all the effort she put in but to ask this to be a sticky when it is not your work is a bit egotistic.but all the same exellent effort prinsess but this is someone elses work and i think age deserves respect 50 years of growing you got my respect old timer.be safe the postman.

[KL4D4]

There is a typo in the bible when it says Eventually, exposure to light will further degrade these cannabinoid compounds to next to nothing if the plant is not plant harvested." or am I just too stupid to understand

[kindprincess]

there are several typos i didn't catch, including one about spectrums.

hps is a red/warm spec, ideal for flower
mh is a blue/cool spec, ideal for veg

[Scarlet Sky]

you rock kp!