Quote Originally Posted by invision
dont be afraid i take them right down to the dirt they are very flexible....
Agreed. I bend mine up 90° "all the time". Ya can do this all the way through the first week or so of bud. I'm currently turning one stretching plant into a compressed "Z". Water the plant heavilly 2 hours before, tho. I learned the hard way that a tall, dry plant can snap its stalk clean through.