Metal Grinders=metal alloy in your lungs.

[Kindbud]

There's not a hint of metal anywhere on my grinder after much use. It must just be the one you own.

Also chances are the wood used to make your wooden grinder has been chemically treated when the wood was being dried, and to make it last longer - wetting agent, dry-aid, varnish, formaldehyde, sodium benzoate, etc.

Also, a lighter never gets hot enough to sublimate aluminum or steel. It's impossible to inhale any vapor from thier use.

Look around your house. Your cookware, parts fo the element on your stove, the element in your kettle. They are all made from steel. There is a reason for this - it is inert and under operating temperatures do not get hot enough to sublimate gaseous metal - and thats based on real life scientific application, not stoner psuedo-knowledge.

Wow, ok.. First off all HARDENED steel made for stovetops is a completely different material /SUBJECT ! I'm not trying to start an arguement here. Secondly I don't think nirvana seed company would use formaldehyde or dryaid in their wood ! Man are you just trying to argue? The friction caused by the grinding causes aluminum to flake... Run your finger on the outer side of any HIGH END quality kief collector/grinder,and notice the shiny glimmers of shrapnel. Who knows ,maybe it was just the one I bought ...:rasta:

[khoa]

what about metal pipes

[duckfool]

Wow, ok.. First off all HARDENED steel made for stovetops is a completely different material /SUBJECT !

They aren't made from hardened steel, just your run of the mill untempered mild steel. But anyway, I'm not just trying to argue, I just think its something really silly to worry about.

Secondly I don't think nirvana seed company would use formaldehyde or dryaid in their wood !

Nirvana seeds don't prepare the wood they use to make thier grinders. In fact, chances are they don't even make the grinders, but rather have them made by someone else and then branded with thier logo.

Run your finger on the outer side of any HIGH END quality kief collector/grinder,and notice the shiny glimmers of shrapnel.

Just did. Nothing!

There should be enough clearance inbetween the parts that move past eachother for that not to happen. If your grinder is doing this, maybe you should xchange it, or try a different one.

[S.P.Q.R.]

what about metal pipes

What about them? He's not saying metal's particularly bad to smoke with.. he's just saying his grinder might be getting metal flakes into his bud.

[BobBong]

What about filters? screens? the pot itself? water in a bong?

There's a lot of things that will stop these few "shavings" from getting into your mouth let alone , lungs.

[suhl]

There's not a hint of metal anywhere on my grinder after much use. It must just be the one you own.

Also chances are the wood used to make your wooden grinder has been chemically treated when the wood was being dried, and to make it last longer - wetting agent, dry-aid, varnish, formaldehyde, sodium benzoate, etc.

Also, a lighter never gets hot enough to sublimate aluminum or steel. It's impossible to inhale any vapor from thier use.

Look around your house. Your cookware, parts fo the element on your stove, the element in your kettle. They are all made from steel. There is a reason for this - it is inert and under operating temperatures do not get hot enough to sublimate gaseous metal - and thats based on real life scientific application, not stoner psuedo-knowledge.

this sounds about right. i think if people were inhaling all those metal flakes then we would have weed related health problems which would be highly publicized. if the guy that made this thread wants to present some actual proof, as in cases of people using metal grinders, preferably more than one since thousands and thousands of people use them, having additional lung problems

[partcleguy]

I've had the same problem. First time I saw it, I threw away my grinder (a cheap aluminum grinder). Having aluminum shavings in your lungs is no laughing matter. You can look up the material safety sheet, but it can lead to some bad problems over time. Its not worth debating if its for personal health. You gotta think long term here, people. We all know we're going to be smoking weed for years and years :rastasmoke:

[nikweiser]

130$ for a grinder?

[LIP]

wooden ones rock the shit, or a plastic one. Simple is best, fuck it, a coffee grinder.... no efffort lol!

[khoa]

What about them? He's not saying metal's particularly bad to smoke with.. he's just saying his grinder might be getting metal flakes into his bud.

i was trying to get at the point that aluminum would not be able to vaporize at such a low temperature. So it would stay solid, if it gets sucked through the bowl before you dump out the ash, it would probably get stuck in the resin before it entered your mouth. Even if it entered your lungs, these visible flakes are probably big enough that your cilia will eventually brush them out.
that's my logic at least.