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12-15-2006, 11:13 PM #1Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by MastaChronic
Have a good one!:jointsmile:Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on . What about impeachment Impeachment is an essential tool for preserving democracy. The framers of our Constitution, determined to provide protections against grave abuses of power by a president, created the impeachment process as a special procedure for citizens. Through their representatives, citizens would be able to remove a president run amok. Our founders created a new form of government that was designed to preserve liberty by breaking up power among three co-equal branches of government and instituting a Rating: 5
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12-16-2006, 04:15 AM #2Senior Member
What about impeachment
IN A NUTSHELL lets review....
First, they fixed the intelligence and facts to further their agenda for war.
Then they punished patriotic public servants who disagreed with them, including Gen. Eric K. Shinseki; Paul H. O'Neill, the former Treasury secretary; and Richard A. Clarke, a former counterterrorism official.
Then they attacked Iraq without provocation, killing tens of thousands of people who did us no harm and posed us no danger while allowing North Korea ,Afganistan and Iran to become greater threats.
And they sent our boys into harms way in too few numbers and without proper equipment.
Then there is the continued lying over and over. The president is suppose to be someone of strong moral character I cannot trust a liar.
And finally, in violation of signed treaties and contrary to long-held values, they besmirched the moral authority of our country by approving, justifying and carrying out torture. Making matters even worse for our soldiers and destroying our reputation as a fair and humane nation.
Not to mention the long list of international obligations he violated.
Now what part of complete and total failure do you not understand? hmmmm?
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12-16-2006, 04:43 AM #3Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by BlueCat
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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12-16-2006, 05:39 AM #4OPSenior Member
What about impeachment
Well they can't make up their minds whether the planet is warming or cooling, if it's cooling, maybe we'll see that cold day in hell, I hope so!
[SIZE=\"4\"]Amendment IV [/SIZE] The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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12-16-2006, 07:59 AM #5Senior Member
What about impeachment
All politicians are crooks and are only there to steal money. What other reason is there to go into politics?
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12-16-2006, 08:27 AM #6Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by Perp
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12-16-2006, 02:45 PM #7Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by BlueCat
"There's a richman in his summer home
singing just leave well enough alone
well, his pants are down his covers blown
and the politicians throwing stones
while the kids they dance and shake their bones
'cause its all too clear that we are on our own
ashes to ashes we all fall down"
dai*ma
"and your flag decal wont get you into heaven aymore
they're already over-crowded from your dirty little wars
now jesus dont like killing no matter what the reason for
and your flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore"
j prine
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12-17-2006, 03:30 AM #8Senior Member
What about impeachment
You know Psycho I have met people like you. You will never admit to being wrong because your ego won't allow it. It is not an assumption that our country was mislead. You can hold animosity in your heart for all other nations if it makes you feel better but it will accomplish nothing. You are letting emotion interfere with reason and the law. That is why we have courts and law so people like you don't get all crazy and push that big red button. PEACE should always be the goal and peace cannot be accomplished if we continue to shut out the rest of the world. The International Court has Judges from all over the world. You are an isolationist. You think we can bully our way into peace. I just don't believe that is possible. Nothing can be solved without dialog and blaming other nations does not set up a dialog for a solution.
What about the Nuremburg trials do you think they were of no value? Because of the holocaust we have the Geneva convention and those laws protect of soldiers.
Do you feel Milosevic should not have been charged by the ICC simply because you don't like france?
to date, 104 countries have ratified or acceded to the court, including nearly all of Europe and South America, and nearly half of all African countries.A further 35 states have signed but not yet ratified the treaty, which under the law of treaties obliges states to refrain from “acts which would defeat the object and purpose” of the treaty. The USA and Israel have "unsigned" the Rome treaty in order to avoid these obligations because they are guilty.
George W. Bush's speech on September 6 amounted to a public confession to criminal violations of the 1996 War Crimes Act. He implicitly admitted authorizing disappearances, extrajudicial imprisonment, torture, transporting prisoners between countries and denying the International Committee of the Red Cross access to prisoners.
You are the one that needs to see the light. Honestly if you have not seen it by now it is becuase you don't want to so debating it with you is a waste of time. It just saddens me becuase I get the feeling you are a really nice guy but all this anger in your heart is clouding your judgment and it will solve nothing. Cool heads and reason are the only chance we have and I am thankful for the many people that feel as I do.
Rumsfield has already been charged just days after his resignation, Rumsfeld faced more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers and I am confident that Cheney and Bush will be as well as soon as they are out of office. The ICC rules cannot charge a government but they can the individual and I am truly looking forward to it.
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12-17-2006, 03:35 AM #9Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by medicinal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjS1nMCdHf4
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12-17-2006, 05:19 AM #10Senior Member
What about impeachment
Originally Posted by BlueCat
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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