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    #1
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by MastaChronic
    get everbody that was involved with the crimes of the bush regime.
    What were they again???

    Have a good one!:jointsmile:
    Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on . What about impeachment Impeachment is an essential tool for preserving democracy. The framers of our Constitution, determined to provide protections against grave abuses of power by a president, created the impeachment process as a special procedure for citizens. Through their representatives, citizens would be able to remove a president run amok. Our founders created a new form of government that was designed to preserve liberty by breaking up power among three co-equal branches of government and instituting a Rating: 5

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  3.     
    #2
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    IN A NUTSHELL lets review....

    First, they fixed the intelligence and facts to further their agenda for war.

    Then they punished patriotic public servants who disagreed with them, including Gen. Eric K. Shinseki; Paul H. O'Neill, the former Treasury secretary; and Richard A. Clarke, a former counterterrorism official.

    Then they attacked Iraq without provocation, killing tens of thousands of people who did us no harm and posed us no danger while allowing North Korea ,Afganistan and Iran to become greater threats.

    And they sent our boys into harms way in too few numbers and without proper equipment.

    Then there is the continued lying over and over. The president is suppose to be someone of strong moral character I cannot trust a liar.

    And finally, in violation of signed treaties and contrary to long-held values, they besmirched the moral authority of our country by approving, justifying and carrying out torture. Making matters even worse for our soldiers and destroying our reputation as a fair and humane nation.

    Not to mention the long list of international obligations he violated.

    Now what part of complete and total failure do you not understand? hmmmm?

  4.     
    #3
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCat
    IN A NUTSHELL lets review....

    First, they fixed the intelligence and facts to further their agenda for war.

    Assumption..........

    Then they punished patriotic public servants who disagreed with them, including Gen. Eric K. Shinseki; Paul H. O'Neill, the former Treasury secretary; and Richard A. Clarke, a former counterterrorism official.

    What major punishment did they get?

    Then they attacked Iraq without provocation, killing tens of thousands of people who did us no harm and posed us no danger while allowing North Korea ,Afganistan and Iran to become greater threats.

    LOL.....still haven't seen the light huh?

    And they sent our boys into harms way in too few numbers and without proper equipment.

    Initially half our force was trapped in Turkey.....they had a last minute change of heart. BLACKMAIL!

    Then there is the continued lying over and over. The president is suppose to be someone of strong moral character I cannot trust a liar.

    lol.....Something I VERY seriously doubt we'll ever see.

    And finally, in violation of signed treaties and contrary to long-held values, they besmirched the moral authority of our country by approving, justifying and carrying out torture. Making matters even worse for our soldiers and destroying our reputation as a fair and humane nation.

    LOL....and which country is going to be our judge on this charge? NOBODY wants their dirt exposed.

    Not to mention the long list of international obligations he violated.

    Now what part of complete and total failure do you not understand? hmmmm?
    He's not the greatest we've ever had but I REALLY doubt if he's considered impeachable. LOL....He'll DEFINATELY NEVER see a world court! As for myself.......it should be a COLD day in hell when ANY of our leaders should be held in the eyes of the France, Russia, China, etc........

    Have a good one!:jointsmile:

  5.     
    #4
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Well they can't make up their minds whether the planet is warming or cooling, if it's cooling, maybe we'll see that cold day in hell, I hope so!
    [SIZE=\"4\"]Amendment IV [/SIZE] The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

  6.     
    #5
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    All politicians are crooks and are only there to steal money. What other reason is there to go into politics?

  7.     
    #6
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Perp
    All politicians are crooks and are only there to steal money. What other reason is there to go into politics?
    Insecurity is another reason. One example is the male politician that was rejected by the girl he wanted in high school.

  8.     
    #7
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCat
    IN A NUTSHELL lets review....

    First, they fixed the intelligence and facts to further their agenda for war.

    Then they punished patriotic public servants who disagreed with them, including Gen. Eric K. Shinseki; Paul H. O'Neill, the former Treasury secretary; and Richard A. Clarke, a former counterterrorism official.

    Then they attacked Iraq without provocation, killing tens of thousands of people who did us no harm and posed us no danger while allowing North Korea ,Afganistan and Iran to become greater threats.

    And they sent our boys into harms way in too few numbers and without proper equipment.

    Then there is the continued lying over and over. The president is suppose to be someone of strong moral character I cannot trust a liar.

    And finally, in violation of signed treaties and contrary to long-held values, they besmirched the moral authority of our country by approving, justifying and carrying out torture. Making matters even worse for our soldiers and destroying our reputation as a fair and humane nation.

    Not to mention the long list of international obligations he violated.

    Now what part of complete and total failure do you not understand? hmmmm?
    Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia & Co. were singing about whats happening now in the 60's-70's and 80's.

    "There's a richman in his summer home
    singing just leave well enough alone
    well, his pants are down his covers blown
    and the politicians throwing stones
    while the kids they dance and shake their bones
    'cause its all too clear that we are on our own
    ashes to ashes we all fall down"

    dai*ma
    "and your flag decal wont get you into heaven aymore
    they're already over-crowded from your dirty little wars
    now jesus dont like killing no matter what the reason for
    and your flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore"

    j prine

  9.     
    #8
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    You know Psycho I have met people like you. You will never admit to being wrong because your ego won't allow it. It is not an assumption that our country was mislead. You can hold animosity in your heart for all other nations if it makes you feel better but it will accomplish nothing. You are letting emotion interfere with reason and the law. That is why we have courts and law so people like you don't get all crazy and push that big red button. PEACE should always be the goal and peace cannot be accomplished if we continue to shut out the rest of the world. The International Court has Judges from all over the world. You are an isolationist. You think we can bully our way into peace. I just don't believe that is possible. Nothing can be solved without dialog and blaming other nations does not set up a dialog for a solution.

    What about the Nuremburg trials do you think they were of no value? Because of the holocaust we have the Geneva convention and those laws protect of soldiers.

    Do you feel Milosevic should not have been charged by the ICC simply because you don't like france?

    to date, 104 countries have ratified or acceded to the court, including nearly all of Europe and South America, and nearly half of all African countries.A further 35 states have signed but not yet ratified the treaty, which under the law of treaties obliges states to refrain from “acts which would defeat the object and purpose” of the treaty. The USA and Israel have "unsigned" the Rome treaty in order to avoid these obligations because they are guilty.

    George W. Bush's speech on September 6 amounted to a public confession to criminal violations of the 1996 War Crimes Act. He implicitly admitted authorizing disappearances, extrajudicial imprisonment, torture, transporting prisoners between countries and denying the International Committee of the Red Cross access to prisoners.

    You are the one that needs to see the light. Honestly if you have not seen it by now it is becuase you don't want to so debating it with you is a waste of time. It just saddens me becuase I get the feeling you are a really nice guy but all this anger in your heart is clouding your judgment and it will solve nothing. Cool heads and reason are the only chance we have and I am thankful for the many people that feel as I do.

    Rumsfield has already been charged just days after his resignation, Rumsfeld faced more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers and I am confident that Cheney and Bush will be as well as soon as they are out of office. The ICC rules cannot charge a government but they can the individual and I am truly looking forward to it.

  10.     
    #9
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by medicinal
    Well they can't make up their minds whether the planet is warming or cooling, if it's cooling, maybe we'll see that cold day in hell, I hope so!
    There is NO DOUBT things are getting warmer if you are in doubt just google a few photos of the Patagonia Glaciers or better yet watch An Inconvinent Truth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjS1nMCdHf4

  11.     
    #10
    Senior Member

    What about impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCat
    You know Psycho I have met people like you. You will never admit to being wrong because your ego won't allow it. It is not an assumption that our country was mislead. You can hold animosity in your heart for all other nations if it makes you feel better but it will accomplish nothing. You are letting emotion interfere with reason and the law. That is why we have courts and law so people like you don't get all crazy and push that big red button. PEACE should always be the goal and peace cannot be accomplished if we continue to shut out the rest of the world. The International Court has Judges from all over the world. You are an isolationist. You think we can bully our way into peace. I just don't believe that is possible. Nothing can be solved without dialog and blaming other nations does not set up a dialog for a solution.

    LOL.........more assumptions.

    What about the Nuremburg trials do you think they were of no value? Because of the holocaust we have the Geneva convention and those laws protect of soldiers.

    Do you feel Milosevic should not have been charged by the ICC simply because you don't like france?

    Milosevic.......another genocidal type. How does this relate to Bush and friends? Sure your not thinking Chirac?

    to date, 104 countries have ratified or acceded to the court, including nearly all of Europe and South America, and nearly half of all African countries.A further 35 states have signed but not yet ratified the treaty, which under the law of treaties obliges states to refrain from ā??acts which would defeat the object and purposeā? of the treaty. The USA and Israel have "unsigned" the Rome treaty in order to avoid these obligations because they are guilty.

    Hey, YOU asked for honesty in politics in a previous post. By not signing aren't we stating that terrorists may just have an ass kicking coming.....like it or not?

    George W. Bush's speech on September 6 amounted to a public confession to criminal violations of the 1996 War Crimes Act. He implicitly admitted authorizing disappearances, extrajudicial imprisonment, torture, transporting prisoners between countries and denying the International Committee of the Red Cross access to prisoners.

    What type of prisoners.........prisoners of war that would mean that a country claimed them; terrorists have no country or fight for a flag and therefore aren't under the same prisoner of war status.

    You are the one that needs to see the light. Honestly if you have not seen it by now it is becuase you don't want to so debating it with you is a waste of time. It just saddens me becuase I get the feeling you are a really nice guy but all this anger in your heart is clouding your judgment and it will solve nothing. Cool heads and reason are the only chance we have and I am thankful for the many people that feel as I do.

    LOL....it takes us flag wavin' ass kickers to protect tree huggers; we each play a role.

    Rumsfield has already been charged just days after his resignation, Rumsfeld faced more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers and I am confident that Cheney and Bush will be as well as soon as they are out of office. The ICC rules cannot charge a government but they can the individual and I am truly looking forward to it.
    LMAO!!!! I got a hundred stating that they will NEVER see a world court trial.......you on? Send me an e-mail....it's posted in my signature. Hell, I'll give it 5 years if ya wish.

    Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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