ok, look for the new one tonite; i have to bury my dog in a little while, and will be out most of the day... i'll re-do this one in order, with a table of contents at the beginning; then maybe you could replace this one with that...

i'm open to suggestions of alterations as well... plus, i've some more to add.

thanx bob, i do appreciate the feedback

love, kp

and for the search... i tried it many times, but unless i know exactly what i'm looking for, and who's thread it's in, it's like the needle in the haystack thing... i learned much through the search, but it took me longer than expected to find the answers i was looking for... maybe this is why people don't use it... it takes too long to find stuff, which is why i always post links to others q's (if i have one available)