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12-10-2006, 10:46 AM #1OPSenior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
Hello,
i'm growing DWC with air stones and GH flora series. I know now that flora bio clogs the air stones. OK. But what causes that brown mud that sticks to the roots. I don't understand. Not in each bucket. I think it asphixiates the plant at last. Do you change air pump, air hoses on a regular base to avoid mold ?
Thanks for answering.
Fhydrofhydro Reviewed by fhydro on . brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows Hello, i'm growing DWC with air stones and GH flora series. I know now that flora bio clogs the air stones. OK. But what causes that brown mud that sticks to the roots. I don't understand. Not in each bucket. I think it asphixiates the plant at last. Do you change air pump, air hoses on a regular base to avoid mold ? Thanks for answering. Fhydro Rating: 5
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12-10-2006, 03:39 PM #2Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
You have to keep the nute clean and cold...the more air the better.. If you want to kill bugs use an oxygenizer,UV or chemical like monclorimine.
Change/clean res more often.
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12-10-2006, 04:03 PM #3Senior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
you must clean your resivoir more often...
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12-10-2006, 05:54 PM #4Senior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
I believe if you search Zandor's posts for "brown", "calmag", and/or "micro" you will find he mentions that flora Micro tends to stain the roots slightly brownish. It was in a thread discussing CalMag Plus and whether or not it stained the roots brown or not. If you have brown and SLIME and the roots break, it's not just stain.. it's probably root rot.
What you could do after a res change (pulling everything out, washing the res and grow tub, washing/scrubbing airstones and lines etc etc.) after you refill, put a little bit of hydrogen peroxide in the water. Wait 24 hours, THEN re-nute and adjust.
The H2O2 has the extra oxygen molecule and will kill the algae and give oxygen to the roots also until it breaks down to normal h2o after a day.
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12-10-2006, 07:48 PM #5Senior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
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12-10-2006, 09:08 PM #6Senior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
I clean with H2O2 and use a little bit of H202 in the rez water. But mainly its cold temps. If you keep the temps under 70 degrees F, you could get away with not changing the water for weeks with no algae. I found FloraNova just tends to really promote the algae, although I also found it works pretty well too. Ive got some massive plants from it.
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12-10-2006, 11:01 PM #7Senior Member
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If they smell bad then it is probably root rott or pythiom wilt. Low res temps and not light proofing the buckets can cause things like this.
Adieu
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12-12-2006, 02:29 AM #8Senior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
get hydroguard its safe to use with any nutes and you will never have alge or root rot problems again. Don't use with h2o2
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12-13-2006, 11:17 AM #9Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
Pith-off or monocloromine by Flairform is the best I have used (and I was growin' trees in rockwool... ) and it's cheap.... (I always source commercial grade nutrients and treatments)
FCLife =the rage of the DNA to exploit resources.
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12-14-2006, 05:11 AM #10Junior Member
brown roots : i'm sure Zandor knows
I'm having the same probs I think.
The set-up:
- DWC bubbler (4 x 6" airstones)
- 6 x T8 fluorescent lights (warm and cool mix)
- nutes: General Hydroponics flora series mixed to the correct ratio (or so I believe) for seedlings
- pH is just under 6.0
- room temp is 70-75
As you'll see, there is some brown ick starting to develop on the roots. This ick appeared just after the first nute change (10 days after the plants went into the bubbler). When I noticed the brown I drained the system and gave the bucket a good clean with a bit of chlorine bleach solution and then rinsed it thoroughly.
I then refilled, adjusted the ph, added the nutes and now I'm waiting to see how things progress.
It wasn't until after I had done that that I read about adding H2O2 to the system and letting it sit for a day to try and stave off what I presume is algal growth.
Three questions:
1) Should I empty the system once more and go the H2O2 route ?
2) If I do, what is the recommended ratio of hydrogen peroxide to water ?
3) Instead of H2O2, is there a recommended microbial additive I should use to kill off the algae without harming the plants ? I have read through a number of posts but couldn't quite tell what was the best route.
Thanks in advance!
Peace everyone.
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