Torog, I don't understand how you got that idea that I'm claiming that Iran and the likes have moral equivilancy. Iran, North Korea, and many others would undoubtedly use such weapons against many people unjustly, hence why I say they have to be stopped even it it means war. All I was saying (I don't really know how else to say it) is that from their perspective, the mass nuclear weapon's build up of the U.S. is a perfect tool for anti-western propoganda, and it's not reasonable to assume that somebody is going to disarm when you refuse to do the same. I'm not proposing leaving ourselves defenseless, I'm proposing perfectin an anti-missile defense system before scrapping our nukes, then declaring war if it is so necessary to stop a nation like I Iran from building/using them. It's not necessary to have nukes to declare war, we have some amazingly powerfull non-nuclear weapons of mass destruction that could easly whipe out a nuclear site before they see it coming, shoot down a nuclear missile before it reaches the Indian ocean, and destroy conventional military's accordingly. Troops, special forces, guided missiles, smart-bombs, fighter and bomber aircraft, espionage, artilery, battleships and coastal bombardments... these are all very effective.