Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet
Those questions have been beat to death, and someone who has their minds set on that being the way it is, is never going to say 'yeah, that's not exactly rational, is it?"

But to understand those questions, you have to understand the times, the purpose of religion as an early form of Government and crowd control, etc.

If you go from the assumption that it is all literal, you'll never see a rational answer to them. But if you go from the perspective that these are the things that the culture who came up with this stuff was trying to accomplish, suddenly it all starts clicking into place.

Oh, and expect a lot of hostility from the buddies g/f if you confront her on her beliefs. It's human nature.
Hamlet, I do realize these aren’t particularly original questions. It’s just another literal inconsistency in the bible.
Still, to some they should be troubling. And as you said they will never agree, look at Pass that shit. I find that troubling

First off! Since I am an atheist I have no assumptions on the bible. I work my arguments on the assumptions of others. Hamlet, even though we both agree it is ridiculous some people believe the bible to be literally the word of god. My personal reasons for not believing are a mix between the concepts in the bible I find problems with, and the lack of reason to believe**. By lack or reason I mean that there are no convincing reasons to believe.

Trust me, I understand the “times” Christianity is possibly the best method of control over a population that you cannot control physically. Now we use the media for the same purpose. See Chomsky’s book “necessary illusions”. I also find intrest in other less obvious “teachings” in the bible which served the public very well back then. Big fancy supernatural reasons why we shouldn’t kill, or steal, or why we should drink booze. As booze as the safest drink in most places. AS the bacteria used to create it kills off pathogenic bacteria. Interesting shit

Oh and everyone reacts when you question their beliefs.
That is why we should do it ourselves

Quote Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
Harris, I think I see your point of view. God is evil and you are righteous. That is logic in your mind right?
He will provide the answers to your questions.
You will never understand my point of view.