Quote Originally Posted by Blue Cat
well thanks. I hope they all come home safely.

One question: we were discussing this on the military moms site:
When ever a comment is made on the pure shit that our guys are going though someone else (usually someone with no family in the military) makes the comment Well he volunteered or he enlisted.

The statement makes no sense. SO I guess that means it is OK for our sons to be killed or maimed because they enlisted they deserve to get their legs blown off? No one knows or can prepare for what they are seeing over there. I guess it is more noble to wait until the country is attacked and then wait again while the government re instates a draft...thats going to work real well.
They enlist because they trusted the country and our government NOT TO LIE to them. Volunteering to serve is an honorable thing it should not be used as a way to excuse what is happening to our guys today.

IF you really do have children in this war AND they are down range then I really really don't understand your opinions but that is fine. I never said you could not have an opinion what I said was I don't have to agree nor accept your opinion.

We are BOTH here on the cannabis site so that much we have in common.
So pass the PEACE pipe. maybe it will work magic.

I say that because both of mine knew exactly what they were doing. Against my advice they both left collage, I told them both this mess would be going on for decades and it would still be here after they graduated. It looks like I was right.

the country and our government NOT TO LIE to them.
I don't believe they see that way, if you are talking WMD's, the solders & parents I talk to think it was gross incompetence, on a world wide scale 15-20 countries Intelligence services were telling OUR Intel that their Intel was the same. I'm not making excuses or trying to justify it, but thats the truth. The voices telling Bush there was no MD were a very small minority in 2002.

When you go down the Government lie/conspiracy road the evidence isn't there, on WMD was a "lie". As a matter of fact I have never heard any solder say the Government "lied" to them about anything. The only people I hear solders call liars is recruiters.

When I hear from my son, him and his over there think they be successful in the end. Given time, they seem almost has worried about the people back home bailing out as they do what they're facing. I tell him to focus on staying alive and doing the job.

We are going to have troops in Iraq for years and years to come (regardless of which party is in charge) Unfortunately I think I am going to be right and he doesn't believe me, again

We are BOTH here on the cannabis site so that much we have in common.
So pass the PEACE pipe. maybe it will work magic.
I quit toking when the kids came along, I only post in the "politics" section, I enjoy having to defend what and why I believe something.

I will gladly make "peace" with you, I was only debating and exchanging ideas, if I offended you I'm sorry I saw nothing between us as personal.