My whole point was that from the time i piss until the time my piss gets tested is at the very least a few days....so if hes getting drug tested on the spot, i would assume his piss could be a few days old. The parts about the creatnine break down i mentioned were all on speculation, so i'm sure what your saying about that is true. However i'd still assume that the overall idea of my post is true otherwise everyone of my drug tests would have failed or showed some kind of error.

And the apple juice thing... i dunno what you are you trying to say, I never suggested he should use apple juice, I was just using it as an exaggerated example of why they test for creatnine.