Quote Originally Posted by ny2casports89
My whole point was that from the time i piss until the time my piss gets tested is at the very least a few days....so if hes getting drug tested on the spot, i would assume his piss could be a few days old.
Was your drug test an instant test or a lab test? If it was a lab test were you there watching it from the time you pissed in the specimen cup till the time it was tested? See the thing is you are making assumptions and there are a lot of people who make assumptions in the drug testing forum that are incorrect. It would be more helpful to others if you posted fatual information and not assumptions. Some people's probations and jobs depend on this info. BTW, you are not the only one who posts assumptions or weird theories or incorrect facts.

Quote Originally Posted by ny2casports89
The parts about the creatnine break down i mentioned were all on speculation, so i'm sure what your saying about that is true. However i'd still assume that the overall idea of my post is true
Again, speculation is not as helpful as facts. Since everything you said about creatinine clearance (except the part about many home tests do not test for this) was wrong how do you figure your post was correct? Almost all lab test test for pH and if you use old urine this is going to be one of the first things to possibly fail. Some very expensive lab tests will look for other things that will show the urine is old. Just because you passed your test doesn't mean every one else will pass their test following your methods. There are so many things that can be tested for depending on how much money someone wants to spend. You also said his piss could be a few days old. Guess what, if I gave old piss the company that tests me would know because they test for many, many things so if I followed your post that you say is correct I would fail. Facts please, not speculation.

Quote Originally Posted by ny2casports89
And the apple juice thing... i dunno what you are you trying to say, I never suggested he should use apple juice, I was just using it as an exaggerated example of why they test for creatnine.
Using things like apple juice will fail for more than just the lack of creatinine. Horrible example and explanation of the example.

Every lab test tests for specific gravity and pH so they probably don't list it because they have been doing it since the beginning of drug testing. Creatinine clearance is an "option" that can be added to the testing menu so that is why they are probably listing it, to instill some fear against dilution. The advice I gave on how to store urine holds true for tests using creatinine clearance or just about anything else that is tested for.