well ive just read the whole of this thread and im very impressed. we have some propper smart people amongst us. either that or just too much time on there hands but either way im still impressed. what is it they say u learn something new every day well i think ive learnt enough for a week in this one thread lol. i hope i find alot more discussions like this on here there very informative thank you all even the bloke that made the wise crack at the beggining u no the one kp bitch slapped down lol laters people peace out!