Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet
Have I fought in Iraq? No I haven't. Have I personally seen civilian guts and soldiers raping women...yes I have. It's called the News. Conservative estimates of over 100 thousand civilian deaths..mostly women and children. Soldiers are on trial now for raping a 12 year old girl if you want to pick up a paper. Yeah, I'm sure they just want to give us a big group hug.

I work side by side with a kid who's spent the last 2 years over there doing the actual fighting and he has painted a pretty accurate picture for me of whats going on and the Iraqi peoples attitudes. <--they might have been kissing your ass but I guarantee you they don't love you.) That, along with plenty of credible journalism, and the real facts are all there. Maybe you want to believe whatever you were doing over there was worthwhile, but denying the horror and chaos we've inflicted on that country and the peoples real sentiment towards us is living in a fantasy.

Think about it...would you thank the country who dropped a bomb on your house, killed your family, destroyed your neighborhood, and left you a refugee living hand to mouth in poverty?
mate, the media is a business, they arent usually interested in the truth, they are interested in getting people to read their articles, buy their magazienes, watch their shows, now what is the best way to get people to tune in?
Bagging America, they know that the people who support the war are going to be watching and getting pissed off, but they wont stop watching, and they know that the people against the war are also going to get pissed, anger is a powerfull emotion which the media wants you to feel, once your mad youll watch more news, read more papers and do what ever else, because rare is the person who says, this is pissing me off, ill just change the channel

having said that, even if you dont agree with me there you should atleast agree to the fact that watching something on the news is NOWHERE NEAR the same thing as actually being there, and they were not just kissing my ass, its very easy to tell who is being polite to you coz they have to and who genuinely appreciates you, if you cant tell the difference between an asskisser and someone that likes you then i do feel sorry for you

now i wouldnt thank someone who left me a refugee, but i would thank someone who took a dictator, a son of a bitch scumbag, who killed many of my family and friends, and whos soldiers raped my daughters and nieces, and put the bastard where he could no longer do any harm, then help fix my country so it actually runs smoothly and has a fair government,

now i did hear about those yank soldiers, apparently they raped a 14 yr old girl and i think her mother as well but im not sure, then killed the family, that is a very tragic and horrible thing and i hope all of those soldiers get sent to a prison where they will be raped up the ass daily for the rest of their shitty lives, but one incident is very different from the daily rapings that occured when saddam was in power, and these soldiers are actually going to get severly punished for their actions, as opposed to saddams men who could do as they pleased with no fear